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    The red and silver (white) reflective tape does wonders to make a military vehicle visible.

    It can be mounted on 2" wide magnetic strips to make it removable

    Towing a trailer without lights is not safe day or night. I have two sets of magnetic lights. You can easily make a cheap set using a pair of old trailer lights some wire, I know a trucker that is using orange extension cords, and a trailer plug

    This accident may be the catalyst for a nationwide enforcement of having former military vehicles comply with current lighting and reflector requirements

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    Fortunately nobody was killed. The negative press would be much more negative and possibly make national news if there was a fatality. As it is I'd be surprised if it made any waves outside the local region, so hopefully we can be thankful for that. Such stupidity can also be an effective wake up call for others and thus prevent similar mistakes, so thanks to Derek for posting.

    It's probably a safe guess the reason for no lights was a problem with the trailer's harness or plug as opposed to a problem with the tractor's socket... For those scenarios, as well as for towing a truck with a towbar, I made up a set of magnetic towing lights out of a set of Harbor Freight lights and the cable and plug cut off from a scrap military trailer harness. Just figure out which wires go where and make the connections, and swap out the 12v bulbs for 24v ones and you're in business. All the legal and financial trouble that guy is going to be in, could have been prevented for less than $40.

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    Too often it is easy to fall into the reasoning like "I will only do it this time" or "I am only going a short distance" to justify not taking the time to do some rather small things that will prevent the crisis he is in. So thankful no one was seriously hurt or killed.
    I know what it means that military trucks disappear in the dark. I have nearly walked into them in the dark when I forgot where I parked one.
    It is good practice to prepare a set of temporary tail lights and have them ready for use if needed as well as having proper licensing and insurance. We have all worked hard for what we have so taking a moment to think of all we and our families could lose in an incident caused by neglect is time well spent. Having safety equipment like a light kit available and ready to use prevents the justification thinking leading you down the dangerous pathways. I know I have been guilty of that kind of thinking and luckily have not had that problem, but it served to make me re-think some of the things I have done that were risky.
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    This is the "Federal Standards" for a "LowBoy" trailer. Even though we bought our trucks and trailers from the military and would "assume" they are grandfathered in, most states require that the vehicle or trailer meets the Federal Standards.
    I've added a ton of extra lights to my trucks just because I don't want to be in a situation where I could get sued because I didn't meet the Federal Standards. With litigation the way it is today, a good (meaning bad ! ) lawyer could go after you and bankrupt you in a heart beat !

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    This is very similar to the condition called "get-home-itis" with pilots.

    The guy is lucky that he was rear ended by a semi and not by a bunch of kids in a Toyota Corolla going 80. This would be even worse if there were fatalities involved.

    The guy deserves a huge fine and a lengthy loss of driving privileges. And yes, it gives our hobby another black eye.

    I carry a pair of Harbor Freight magnetic tow lights behind the seat of my dually for situations just like this.
    I've been driving all night, my hands wet on the wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USAFSS-ColdWarrior View Post
    Fasten your seatbelts, boys and girls. The private ownership of formerly military vehicles is about to be targeted (righteously or not) due to one fool's indiscretion and the tragic effect that ensued.

    Lawyers, LEO's, and Legislators will outperform hungry LIONS on this one.

    Kevlar may offer minimal protection, and could be rendered useless.

    Let us pray.....
    If all the grief the ducks causes with the bus accident in Seattle didn't do much besides close on company, temporarily... Made no changes in WA state, much less federal... This won't even be a blip.

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    Thanks for the reminder to add conspicuity tape to the two trailers I haven't gotten around to yet. Lights work, but if something ever happened at night on a trip un-noticed it could be a lifesaver.
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    Conspicuity tape comes in black, if the red/white tape on camo paint bothers you. The tape I have is Mil-spec surplus but black is also available from most of the big manufacturers. First picture is how it looks in daylight. Second picture was just a quick shot with flash in a well lit garage, so not a fair representation of how well it really does work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhurey View Post
    If all the grief the ducks causes with the bus accident in Seattle didn't do much besides close on company, temporarily... Made no changes in WA state, much less federal... This won't even be a blip.
    Actually Ryan we won't know the whole story for several years from now. The amount of "committees" and "special session" meetings will take years. I was involved with an accident involving a woman getting hit by one of our busses at Metro. As the mechanic on duty I was the first to see the bus and assess the busses reliability and braking abilities. Talk about a lot of talking with nothing getting done ! Lawyers and County Council members all talking and nothing getting resolved. It took years ! But when the dust finally does settle you just might see some regulations change that will be almost impossible to change back. Once the wheels of Justice get rolling they are impossible to stop.

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