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    That is the sort of project to start into if you just want off-road fun, military looks, a 'huge' pile or shed full of jeep "junk", And the purchase price is a 'clearance' price.
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    A quick way to figure if the transmission was changed is the t90 is a lot taller than the t84. The MB has a flat transmission tunnel. If there is a shifter cover plate that sits up a few inches from the tunnel it probably has a t90. T90 is to be a bit stronger. F head motor made 12 more HP. Agreed on looking over the frame well for what you are looking to do. There are a lot of flat panels on a MB for easy patching. Tons of parts available new and used. Very simple to work on. A cage or roll bar is a must at Rausch Creek and not a bad idea with a narrow short wheelbase Jeep on rocky trails at RC. Sounds like a cool project. I built a rat patrol Jeep out of a CJ2A with a f head and put a fuel can with the bottom cut out over the hole in the hood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steelsoldiers View Post
    I have always loved Rick Pewe’s flatty. From the crappy pictures I’ve seen of this MB, it definitely has a good patina already. A VW TDI would be cool in a flatty too.


    Good to know on the 4.3L! If the frame is good, then I’ll see how low she’ll go on price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmetalmiki View Post
    That is the sort of project to start into if you just want off-road fun, military looks, a 'huge' pile or shed full of jeep "junk", And the purchase price is a 'clearance' price.
    Thanks! Exactly what I was thinking!
    Quote Originally Posted by PaFarmer View Post
    A quick way to figure if the transmission was changed is the t90 is a lot taller than the t84. The MB has a flat transmission tunnel. If there is a shifter cover plate that sits up a few inches from the tunnel it probably has a t90. T90 is to be a bit stronger. F head motor made 12 more HP. Agreed on looking over the frame well for what you are looking to do. There are a lot of flat panels on a MB for easy patching. Tons of parts available new and used. Very simple to work on. A cage or roll bar is a must at Rausch Creek and not a bad idea with a narrow short wheelbase Jeep on rocky trails at RC. Sounds like a cool project. I built a rat patrol Jeep out of a CJ2A with a f head and put a fuel can with the bottom cut out over the hole in the hood.
    Thanks for the tip on the trans ID. I like the sounds of your CJ2A!
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    Well, it is not as bad as the first Jeep I got when 14. It was a M-38 with the F head, to accommodate the taller motor, someone had added a CJ-3B hood and front clip, and welded an extension to the firewall to fill the gap. I did end up getting a less cut up MB a few years later.

    One thing to check is the structural channels under the body, if they are not rotted, the tub is likely in pretty good shape. The T-90 is a stronger transmission, and was used in all jeeps after 1945, I think. If I recall, the T-84 could shift to 4x4 while moving, and with the T-90 you had to come to a full stop.

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    The hard cab has value, at least it does to me. I hereby modify my earlier evaluation. Try to knock the price down to $500. If you're successful, load that sucker up on a trailer and haul it home!!
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    With a 70 year old vehicle you need to do some digging to see what it actually has. The transfer case in MBs and Willys CJs was the same Dana 18. Agreed the top has value. I have seen them listed for more than $500. There were arctic tops and several civilian tops as well. Lots of info on the G.
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    Well, the hood is MINT so maybe I was a little low...

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    Well I sold my hardtop for $600, it would offset the cost......
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    Quote Originally Posted by dependable View Post
    Well, it is not as bad as the first Jeep I got when 14. It was a M-38 with the F head, to accommodate the taller motor, someone had added a CJ-3B hood and front clip, and welded an extension to the firewall to fill the gap. I did end up getting a less cut up MB a few years later.
    One thing to check is the structural channels under the body, if they are not rotted, the tub is likely in pretty good shape. The T-90 is a stronger transmission, and was used in all jeeps after 1945, I think. If I recall, the T-84 could shift to 4x4 while moving, and with the T-90 you had to come to a full stop.
    That sounds like a nicely butchered M38! I'll check the hat channels to see how bad they are.
    Quote Originally Posted by ODFever View Post
    The hard cab has value, at least it does to me. I hereby modify my earlier evaluation. Try to knock the price down to $500. If you're successful, load that sucker up on a trailer and haul it home!!
    Good to know. Thanks!
    Quote Originally Posted by PaFarmer View Post
    With a 70 year old vehicle you need to do some digging to see what it actually has. The transfer case in MBs and Willys CJs was the same Dana 18. Agreed the top has value. I have seen them listed for more than $500. There were arctic tops and several civilian tops as well. Lots of info on the G.
    I did some looking on MB arctic tops and the photos I found on the interwebs look a lot like this one. That would be a good find.
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    Well, the hood is MINT so maybe I was a little low...
    Yeah, LOL, it's a sweet hood. Nothing I can't fix with my trusty MIG. Would be worth keeping if I can find the original hood numbers under the paint.
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