• Steel Soldiers now has a few new forums, read more about it at: New Munitions Forums!

  • Microsoft MSN, Live, Hotmail, Outlook email users may not be receiving emails. We are working to resolve this issue. Please add support@steelsoldiers.com to your trusted contacts.

 

Adding two-stroke oil for lubricity - this study says NO.

cucvrus

Well-known member
11,274
9,603
113
Location
Jonestown Pennsylvania
DSCF4255.jpgDSCF4261.jpgAdding two-stroke oil for lubricity

I did the 2 cycle oil add yesterday. I added 2 cycle to the hole saw for cutting thru the steel angle to lift my M1009 off the frame. Great results. Smoked a little and smelled just like the Stihl and was quieter then the Stihl. It worked. Great in oil cans for lubing hinges and door latches also. Works better then aerosol spray lubes by far. indexgrinch smiling..jpg
 

MarcusOReallyus

Well-known member
4,524
810
113
Location
Virginia
Adding two-stroke oil for lubricity

I did the 2 cycle oil add yesterday. I added 2 cycle to the hole saw for cutting thru the steel angle to lift my M1009 off the frame. Great results. Smoked a little and smelled just like the Stihl and was quieter then the Stihl.
Have you modified the muffler on that hole saw, Rick? Skip tooth or full comp on the cutters? :mrgreen:
 

Carmancraig

New member
23
8
3
Location
Colorado
Zinc di.. Something phosphate. I am thinking that WMO fuel guys can kill 2 birds with 1 stone. Use modern pennies to zinc treat their wmo fuel. The acid in the wmo will readily soak up zinc. This will deactivate the acid simultameously adding molecular zinc as lubricating agent to the fuel system. You are welcome.
 

Carmancraig

New member
23
8
3
Location
Colorado
Heres a chemistry experiment. Sulphuric acid and modern pennies. Dissolve modern pennies, mostly zinc, in sulphuric acid until acidity is neutral. Add mixture to raw oil or fuel. Test acidity, should still be neutral. VIOLA! ZINC SULFATE FUEL SYSTEM LUBRICANT! Maybe some water added to the zinc acid bath to promote hydrogen carbon linking to the fuel oil....
 

ken

Active member
Steel Soldiers Supporter
2,480
24
38
Location
Houston Texas
Heres a chemistry experiment. Sulphuric acid and modern pennies. Dissolve modern pennies, mostly zinc, in sulphuric acid until acidity is neutral. Add mixture to raw oil or fuel. Test acidity, should still be neutral. VIOLA! ZINC SULFATE FUEL SYSTEM LUBRICANT! Maybe some water added to the zinc acid bath to promote hydrogen carbon linking to the fuel oil....
Hummmmmm adding water to my fuel??? Na no thanks. As often as I have to drain the water separator I'm thinking the gas station does that for me already.
 

Carmancraig

New member
23
8
3
Location
Colorado
Umm.. This isnt just adding **** together in a bucket. I should itinerate better. You would be playing psycho chemist here. More like taking old car batteries and dumping them into a acid resistant container and adding a large pile of NEW zinc pennies and distilled water until the solution soaks up enough zinc to neutralize the acid, then the chemical would be like hydrogen sulfate oxy zinc... With numbers of different atomic structures. You would add that molecular liquid to your oil or fuel. May even add hydrogen peroxide instead of water, and maybe would add all the ingredients to fuel and oil then add acid. Essentially we would be looking to bond zinc and sulfur to an agent that will break down the whole molecule during combustion or frictional heating into its cooling, friction lowering and cleaning agents....
 
Last edited:

Floridianson

Well-known member
Steel Soldiers Supporter
7,390
2,437
113
Location
Interlachen Fl.
I will just stick with a diesel oil known to have high zinc and I use Blackstone labs. Additives made for increasing zinc are out there if your oil falls a little short. Use break in oil on new flat tappet engines plus I have my medical card so pass the good stuff my way.
 

MarcusOReallyus

Well-known member
4,524
810
113
Location
Virginia
Got link? I've been researching it and I cannot find anything to support that statement, but a lot to say otherwise. The study I linked was done using JASO standard two stroke oil, which is a more stringent standard than TCW3.

On that point, I found this interesting.
 
Last edited:

TechnoWeenie

Well-known member
Steel Soldiers Supporter
1,644
1,651
113
Location
Nova Laboratories, WA
The same study from 10 or so years ago...
https://www.dieselplace.com/forum/7.../177728-lubricity-additive-study-results.html

Lubricity Additive Study Results
[HR][/HR]The following are the preliminary results of a research study on diesel fuel Lubricity Additives. There is likely to be further commentary and explanation added at a future time.

PURPOSE:

The purpose of this research was to determine the ability of multiple diesel fuel additives to replace the vital lubricity component in ULSD (Ultra Low Sulfer Diesel) fuel.

HISTORY:

ULSD fuel is the fuel currently mandated for use in all on road diesel engines. This fuel burns cleaner and is less polluting than it’s predecessor, called Low Sulfer Diesel Fuel. Low sulfer fuel contained less than 500 ppm of sulfer. ULSD contains 15 ppm or less.
As diesel fuel is further refined to remove the polluting sulfer, it is inadvertently stripped of its lubricating properties. This vital lubrication is a necessary component of the diesel fuel as it prevents wear in the fuel delivery system. Specifically, it lubricates pumps, high pressure pumps and injectors. Traditional Low sulfer diesel fuel typically contained enough lubricating ability to suffice the needs of these vital components. ULSD fuel, on the other hand, is considered to be very “dry” and incapable of lubricating vital fuel delivery components. As a result, these components are at risk of premature and even catastrophic failure when ULSD fuel is introduced to the system. As a result, all oil companies producing ULSD fuel must replace the lost lubricity with additives. All ULSD fuel purchased at retail fuel stations SHOULD be adequately treated with additives to replace this lost lubricity. The potential result of using inadequately treated fuel, as indicated above, can be catastrophic. There have been many documented cases of randomly tested samples of diesel fuel. These tests prove that often times the fuel we purchase is not adequately treated and may therefore contribute to accelerated wear of our fuel delivery systems. For this reason it may be prudent to use an after market diesel fuel additive to ENSURE adequate lubrication of the fuel delivery system. Additionally, many additives can offer added benefits such as cetane improver, and water separators or emulsifiers.

CONTENT:

In this study we will test multiple diesel fuel additives designed to replace lost lubricity. The primary component of this study is a side-by-side laboratory analysis of each additive’s ability to replace this vital lubricity. Additionally, claims of improving cetane, water separation or emulsification, bio-diesel compatibility and alcohol content will be noted. These notes were derived from information that was readily available to consumers (via the label and internet information) and none of this information has been evaluated for validity and/or performance. Cetane information has only been noted if the word “cetane” was used in the advertising information. The words “improves power” has not been translated to mean “improves cetane” in this evaluation. Information on alcohol content is provided by indicating “contains no alcohol”. Omission of the words “contains no alcohol” does not imply that it does contain alcohol. This information was simply missing in the information available to a consumer. However, the possibility of a form of alcohol in these products is possible. Additionally, information on dosages and cost per tankful are included for comparison purposes.

How Diesel Fuel Is Evaluated For Lubricating Ability:

Diesel fuel and other fluids are tested for lubricating ability using a device called a “High Frequency Reciprocating Rig” or HFRR. The HFRR is currently the Internationally accepted, standardized method to evaluate fluids for lubricating ability. It uses a ball bearing that reciprocates or moves back and forth on a metal surface at a very high frequency for a duration of 90 minutes. The machine does this while the ball bearing and metal surface are immersed in the test fluid (in this case, treated diesel fuel). At the end of the test the ball bearing is examined under a microscope and the “wear scar” on the ball bearing is measured in microns. The larger the wear scar, the poorer the lubricating ability of the fluid. Southwest Research runs every sample twice and averages the size of the wear scar.
The U.S. standard for diesel fuel says a commercially available diesel fuel should produce a wear scar of no greater than 520 microns. The Engine Manufacturers Association had requested a standard of a wear scar no greater than 460 microns, typical of the pre-ULSD fuels. Most experts agree that a 520 micron standard is adequate, but also that the lower the wear scar the better.

METHOD:

An independent research firm in Texas was hired to do the laboratory work. The cost of the research was paid for voluntarily by the participating additive manufacturers. Declining to participate and pay for the research were the following companies: Amsoil and Power Service. Because these are popular products it was determined that they needed to be included in the study. These products were tested using funds collected by diesel enthusiasts at “dieselplace.com”. Additionally, unconventional additives such as 2-cycle oil and used motor oil were tested for their abilities to aid in diesel fuel lubricity. These were also paid for by members of “dieselplace.com”.
The study was conducted in the following manner:
-The Research firm obtained a quantity of “untreated” ULSD fuel from a supplier. This fuel was basic ULSD fuel intended for use in diesel engines. However, this sample was acquired PRIOR to any attempt to additize the fuel for the purpose of replacing lost lubricity. In other words, it was a “worst case scenario, very dry diesel fuel” that would likely cause damage to any fuel delivery system. This fuel was tested using the HFRR at the Southwest Research Laboratory. This fuel was determined to have a very high HFRR score of 636 microns, typical of an untreated ULSD fuel. It was determined that this batch of fuel would be utilized as the baseline fuel for testing all of the additives. The baseline fuel HFRR score of 636 would be used as the control sample. All additives tested would be evaluated on their ability to replace lost lubricity to the fuel by comparing their scores to the control sample. Any score under 636 shows improvement to the fuels ability to lubricate the fuel delivery system of a diesel engine.

BLIND STUDY:

In order to ensure a completely unbiased approach to the study, the following steps were taken:
Each additive tested was obtained independently via internet or over the counter purchases. The only exceptions were Opti-Lube XPD and the bio-diesel sample. The reason for this is because Opti-Lube XPD additive was considered “experimental” at the time of test enrollment and was not yet on the market. It was sent directly from Opti-Lube company. The bio-diesel sample was sponsored by Renewable Energy Group. One of their suppliers, E.H. Wolf and Sons in Slinger, Wisconsin supplied us with a sample of 100% soybean based bio-diesel. This sample was used to blend with the baseline fuel to create a 2% bio-diesel for testing.
Each additive was bottled separately in identical glass containers. The bottles were labeled only with a number. This number corresponded to the additive contained in the bottle. The order of numbering was done randomly by drawing names out of a hat. Only Spicer Research held the key to the additives in each bottle.
The additive samples were then sent in a box to An independent research firm. The only information given them was the ratio of fuel to be added to each additive sample. For example, bottle “A” needs to be mixed at a ratio of “480-1”. The ratio used for each additive was the “prescribed dosage” found on the bottle label for that product. Used motor oil and 2-cycle oil were tested at a rationally chosen ratio of 200:1.
The Research Laboratory mixed the proper ratio of each “bottled fluid” into a separate container containing the baseline fuel. The data, therefore, is meaningful because every additive is tested in the same way using the same fuel. A side-by-side comparison of the effectiveness of each additive is now obtainable.

THE RESULTS:

These results are listed in the order of performance in the HFRR test. The baseline fuel used in every test started at an HFRR score of 636. The score shown is the tested HFRR score of the baseline fuel/additive blend.
Also included is the wear scar improvement provided by the additive as well as other claimed benefits of the additive. Each additive is also categorized as a Multi-purpose additive, Multi-purpose + anti-gel, Lubricity only, non-conventional, or as an additive capable of treating both gasoline and diesel fuel.
As a convenience to the reader there is also information on price per treated tank of diesel fuel (using a 26 gallon tank), and dosage per 26 gallon tank provided as “ounces of additive per 26 gallon tank”.

In Order Of Performance:

1) 2% REG SoyPower biodiesel
HFRR 221, 415 micron improvement.
50:1 ratio of baseline fuel to 100% biodiesel
66.56 oz. of 100% biodiesel per 26 gallons of diesel fuel
Price: market value

2)Opti-Lube XPD
Multi-purpose + anti-gel
cetane improver, demulsifier
HFRR 317, 319 micron improvement.
256:1 ratio
13 oz/tank
$4.35/tank

3)FPPF RV, Bus, SUV Diesel/Gas fuel treatment
Gas and Diesel
cetane improver, emulsifier
HFRR 439, 197 micron improvement
640:1 ratio
5.2 oz/tank
$2.60/tank

4)Opti-Lube Summer Blend
Multi-purpose
demulsifier
HFRR 447, 189 micron improvement
3000:1 ratio
1.11 oz/tank
$0.68/tank

5)Opti-Lube Winter Blend
Muti-purpose + anti-gel
cetane improver
HFRR 461, 175 micron improvement
512:1 ratio
6.5 oz/tank
$3.65/tank

6)Schaeffer Diesel Treat 2000
Multi-purpose + anti-gel
cetane improver, emulsifier, bio-diesel compatible
HFRR 470, 166 micron improvement
1000:1 ratio
3.32 oz/tank
$1.87/tank

7)Super Tech Outboard 2-cycle TC-W3 engine oil
Unconventional (Not ULSD compliant, may damage 2007 or newer systems)
HFRR 474, 162 micron improvement
200:1 ratio
16.64 oz/tank
$1.09/tank

8)Stanadyne Lubricity Formula
Lubricity Only
demulsifier, 5% bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free
HFRR 479, 157 micron improvement
1000:1 ratio
3.32 oz/tank
$1.00/tank

9)Amsoil Diesel Concentrate
Multi-purpose
demulsifier, bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free
HFRR 488, 148 micron improvement
640:1 ratio
5.2 oz/tank
$2.16/tank

10)Power Service Diesel Kleen + Cetane Boost
Multi-purpose
Cetane improver, bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free
HFRR 575, 61 micron improvement
400:1 ratio
8.32 oz/tank
$1.58/tank

11)Howe’s Meaner Power Kleaner
Multi-purpose
Alcohol free
HFRR 586, 50 micron improvement
1000:1 ratio
3.32 oz/tank
$1.36/tank

12)Stanadyne Performance Formula
Multi-purpose + anti-gel
cetane improver, demulsifier, 5% bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free
HFRR 603, 33 micron improvement
480:1 ratio
6.9 oz/tank
$4.35/tank

13)Used Motor Oil, Shell Rotella T 15w40, 5,000 miles used.
Unconventional (Not ULSD compliant, may damage systems)
HFRR 634, 2 micron improvement
200:1 ratio
16.64 oz/tank
price: market value

14)Lucas Upper Cylinder Lubricant
Gas or diesel
HFRR 641, 5 microns worse than baseline (statistically insignificant change)
427:1 ratio
7.8 oz/tank
$2.65/tank

15)B1000 Diesel Fuel Conditioner by Milligan Biotech
Multi-purpose, canola oil based additive
HFRR 644, 8 microns worse than baseline (statistically insignificant change)
1000:1 ratio
3.32 oz/tank
$2.67/tank

16)FPPF Lubricity Plus Fuel Power
Multi-purpose + anti-gel
Emulsifier, alcohol free
HFRR 675, 39 microns worse than baseline fuel
1000:1 ratio
3.32 oz/tank
$1.12/tank

17)Marvel Mystery Oil
Gas, oil and Diesel fuel additive (NOT ULSD compliant, may damage 2007 and newer systems)
HFRR 678, 42 microns worse than baseline fuel.
320:1 ratio
10.4 oz/tank
$3.22/tank

18)ValvTect Diesel Guard Heavy Duty/Marine Diesel Fuel Additive
Multi-purpose
Cetane improver, emulsifier, alcohol free
HFRR 696, 60 microns worse than baseline fuel
1000:1 ratio
3.32 oz/tank
$2.38/tank

19)Primrose Power Blend 2003
Multi-purpose
Cetane boost, bio-diesel compatible, emulsifier
HFRR 711, 75 microns worse than baseline
1066:1 ratio
3.12 oz/tank
$1.39/tank

CONCLUSIONS:

Products 1 through 4 were able to improve the unadditized fuel to an HFRR score of 460 or better. This meets the most strict requirements requested by the Engine Manufacturers Association.
Products 1 through 9 were able to improve the unadditized fuel to an HFRR score of 520 or better, meeting the U.S. diesel fuel requirements for maximum wear scar in a commercially available diesel fuel.
Products 16 through 19 were found to cause the fuel/additive blend to perform worse than the baseline fuel. The cause for this is speculative. This is not unprecedented in HFRR testing and can be caused by alcohol or other components in the additives. Further investigation into the possibilities behind these poor results will investigated.
Any additive testing within +/- 20 microns of the baseline fuel could be considered to have no significant change. The repeatability of this test allows for a +/- 20 micron variability to be considered insignificant.

CREDITS:

This study would not have been possible without the participation of all companies involved and dieselplace.com. A special Thank You to all of the dieselplace.com members who generously donated toward this study and waited longer than they should have for the results. You folks are the best. Arlen Spicer, organizer.
 

Floridianson

Well-known member
Steel Soldiers Supporter
7,390
2,437
113
Location
Interlachen Fl.
Just FYI, if anyone questions my "ASE Certified Master Mechanic" credentials I'll gladly send you an email with my credentials. Also my best friend (who owns his own service station) I often mention is also a "ASE Certified Master Mechanic".

You have to make up your mind as when I asked in another thread / post I then get accused public assault. Fist time I just asked for a yes or no question and I got a long rant that I read. Second time I asked respectively I got a rank and accused of trying to get you mad and banned. If you have been and held the ASE master mechanic certification for 40 years and that would be eight different times you tested or 8 certificates you hold then I think you should be awarded a metal and a gold watch as that is quite an notch in your belt. Floridianson@aol.com Please and thank you.
 
Last edited:

Jake59

Active member
169
97
28
Location
Kaggevinne, Flanders, belgium
I realize this is already a somewhat older posting, but the subject remains a concern even today for many/some here I imagine.

I have been adding 2-stroke oil to my diesel fuel for more than 10 years now. The first vehicle I used this in was a 2001 BMW 520d, equipped with an electronic/mechanical injection pump and fully mechanical pressure operated injectors. The second car is a 2011 BMW 525d xDrive with fully electronic IP and piezo operated injectors.
In both I have always added 2-stroke oil and both always served me without any hesitation. This has now been for over 400.000km and with engines that have very sensitive, fragile and extremely fine tuned injection systems.

Why 2-stroke oil? No it is not intended for diesels, but it is an oil that mixes well with fuel, with gas actually and that is exactly what it is made for, but it mixes just as well if not better with diesel fuel, rest assured.

How much do I use? When I mix a batch of 2-stroke fuel, for most applications I will be looking at a 1/25 mixture for older 2-stroke engines to 1/50 for modern 2-stroke engines, according to manufacturer recommendations. This actually means between 4% and 2% oil by volume.
After reading more on various sites, I found that 0.4% 2-stroke oil by volume for diesel engines does the job. This figure is also being used by German companies with significant vehicle parks, such as taxi companies etc... they actually mix a barrel of 2-stroke oil every time they refill their own refueling storage tanks to reach the 0.4% mixture additive and they are known to put a lot more mileage/Km on their cars then most, if not any of us.
Also, rest assured, this small dose of 2-stroke oil will not cause any increased pollution and will not damage your engine or IP in any way! On the contrary, this provides that little bit of extra lubrication to your high pressure fuel system!

Finally, although I realize this has no scientific value whatsoever, I do very well remember many years ago, when diesel fuel spilled on your skin or clothes, the smell would stay with you for several days and it just felt so much more slippery, greasy, slick, whatever you may call it. Today's diesel fuel may have added lubricants, but they certainly do not "feel" as greasy as so many decades ago. When I compare with heating oil, which also has much less sulfur then back in the old days, but is still a lot greasier then our vehicle diesel fuel, where both diesel fuels used to be very similar, except for the color.

Regards,
Jake
 

dependable

Well-known member
1,720
187
63
Location
Tisbury, Massachusetts
Old thread aside, I'm pretty sure the diesel is still pretty greasy, still hard to get out of cloths, maybe you just got better at not spilling it on yourself w age & experience.

2 cycle oil may be a fine additive for older diesels, but not advisable for anything w heat regen cycle or catalytic converter, probably not the DEF engines either. Mostly due to avoid clogging expensive emission systems on tier 4 engines, and cat converters.
 

Jake59

Active member
169
97
28
Location
Kaggevinne, Flanders, belgium
Yes, absolutely today's diesel is still greasy, don't get me wrong, it will cause oil stains when spilled.
But it does not feel the same as it used to. E.g. I remember coating parts in diesel fuel to store them for extended periods and prevent corrosion. They would stay sticky and collect dust, lots of dust, almost as if they were coated in grease. That is no longer possible, as the diesel will just about evaporate completely after a while and leave your parts unprotected. It was like a "heavier" oil fraction back then, you could feel it between your fingers.

And indeed, 2-cycle oil may not be recommended for modern engines with DPF and more, but I strongly doubt German taxi companies would choose to harm their vehicle park without first checking carefully...
After all, a dosage of 0.4% or 4/1000 by volume equates to 1 Pint on a full 35 Gal. tank and precisely such dosage provides the extra lubrication without changing the burning properties of the fuel.

But as mentioned, even with my "modern" BMW diesel engines, with DPF, Cat and the works, I have never had any adverse effects from adding 2-stroke oil and I have to pass a truly rigorous emission test every year.
 

Jake59

Active member
169
97
28
Location
Kaggevinne, Flanders, belgium
Just came across this article in "Autobild", a well reputed German auto magazine:

I have included the unedited google translation hereby.
Not saying this is science but worth a read for those interested.

BLUF: Older diesels can at least benefit from the increased lubricity, while modern diesels only have disadvantages!

I will continue to add 0.4% of 2-stroke oil (equates to 1 Ounce 2-stroke oil per 2 Gal diesel fuel or 18 Ounces for a full 35 Gal refil) to the diesel for my M1009, in particular since diesel fuels here (in the EU) by now have reached a 5-10% ethanol content, which is extremely dry and lacks all/any lubricity.

TRANSLATION:
Mixing of two-stroke oil in diesel - myth or insider tip?

Many drivers of older diesels mix two-stroke oil with the fuel - for a longer service life of the injection system and smoother engine running. But does it really help? And does that also work with modern diesels?
➤ What is two-stroke oil?
➤ Why is older diesel two-stroke oil added?
➤ Can you use two-stroke oil in modern diesel engines?
➤ Conclusion

It used to be a popular trick among taxi drivers, but even today many drivers of older diesels swear by it: mixing two-stroke oil into the fuel. They expect not only smoother engine operation and better combustion, but above all better lubrication of the injection system. Especially in injection systems that are lubricated by the fuel and not by the engine oil, the addition of two-stroke oil should ensure less wear on the diesel pump and the injectors. A similar phenomenon existed for petrol engines up until the 1970s: Here, drivers often poured so-called "top oil" into the tank, which was intended to protect carburettor parts, valves and pistons from wear. While the top oil usually only caused coking, but not any wear protection and has now practically disappeared from the market, many diesel drivers are sticking to the two-stroke oil. But does it really help the diesel? And can two-stroke oil also be used in modern diesels?

What is two-stroke oil?
Before we go into the pros and cons of adding two-stroke oil to diesel, you should first know what two-stroke oil actually is. As the name suggests, two-stroke oil is an engine oil intended for two-stroke engines. Unlike a four-stroke engine, which has its own oil circuit for lubricating all components, a two-stroke engine is lubricated by the fuel. In most cases the fuel is a mixture of (two-stroke) oil and petrol. The oil is then also burned, creating this typical blue cloud that is known, for example, from motor scooters or from some vintage cars such as the Trabant P601.
But two-stroke oil is not just two-stroke oil. There are various ways in which two-stroke oils can be produced. If it is made from base oils obtained by petroleum distillation, it is referred to as a "mineral" two-stroke oil. If synthetic base oils are used in production, this is referred to as a "fully synthetic" two-stroke oil. "Semi-synthetic" two-stroke oils are a mixture of both. In most cases, two-stroke oils are comparable to engine oils - but they contain other additives that, for example, promote the self-mixing of the oil with the fuel.

Why is 2-stroke oil added to older diesels?
Greater lubricity: The main reason old diesel drivers turn to 2-stroke oil is the hope of increasing the lubricity of the diesel fuel and thus reducing wear on the diesel pump or injectors. Because these are often not lubricated by the engine oil, but by the diesel fuel. Two-stroke oil is mainly used because the rumor that modern diesel has poor lubricating properties has persisted for many decades. The cause lies in the development of the fuel, as we get it at the filling stations today: Just over 40 years ago, diesel fuel had a relatively high sulfur content, which came out of the exhaust as sulfur dioxide after combustion. However, sulfur dioxide is a highly toxic gas that causes acid rain, among other things. Nowadays, the sulfur is therefore removed from the diesel fuel during production. This process is called "hydrodesulfonation". In the process, the diesel fuel actually loses some of its lubricity. Hence the rumor that modern diesel fuels have poorer lubricating properties.

Better combustion, quieter engine running
However, the quality of diesel fuel – including its lubricity – is standardized, at least in Europe. The DIN standard EN 590 describes all the basic requirements that diesel fuel has to meet in Europe in order to be approved. In order to meet the required minimum level of lubricity, additives are added to the diesel fuel after hydrodesulphonation, which increase the lubricity again. In most cases, the diesel fuel that you can buy at the gas station even exceeds the specified minimum lubricity limits. Nevertheless, two-stroke oil has the effect of increasing the lubricity of diesel somewhat, because the lubricity of two-stroke oil itself is significantly higher than that of diesel fuel. Many people also explain the smoother engine running that occurs when you pour some two-stroke oil into the tank - but experts have different opinions.

Better combustion: Many diesel drivers also put some two-stroke oil in the tank because they hope for more efficient combustion of the fuel, more power and lower consumption. The ignitability of the diesel, which is specified in the so-called "cetane value", is important for this. The higher the cetane value, the better the diesel-air mixture ignites in the combustion chamber. However, two-stroke oil lowers the cetane value. Depending on the mixing ratio, this can even lead to a noticeable loss of performance.

Quieter engine running: Some experts suspect that this is a possible reason for the quieter engine running. If the cetane value drops, the diesel also ignites more slowly. This can then lead to a gentler ignition of the fuel-air mixture, and the knocking of the diesel engine can be quieter. Other opinions, however, are that adding two-stroke oil leads to an ignition delay - the diesel is therefore ignited later than it should. That would lead to a noticeable loss of performance, but also to louder knocking of the diesel. For this, however, significantly more two-stroke oil would have to be filled in than the ratio of 1:200 that most diesel drivers use. You will not achieve lower consumption by adding two-stroke oil.

Can you use two-stroke oil in modern diesel engines?
The common rail injection systems of modern diesel engines are very delicate and therefore very sensitive. Even tiny dirt particles can lead to damage that makes it necessary to completely replace the injection system. Repair costs of several thousand euros are then the rule rather than the exception. For example, filling in two-stroke oils can result in dirt falling into the tank, which can then result in expensive damage. But the two-stroke oil itself can also damage the diesel pump and the injectors, even if there is only a small amount in the fuel. It actually makes the fuel more lubricious, but at the same time increases its viscosity, making the diesel more viscous. This can become a problem: If the lubricating film breaks off for just a few milliseconds, the common rail system, which operates at a pressure of up to 2000 bar, can already be seriously damaged and then has to be replaced.

Two-stroke oil contains metals such as zinc
However, the residues that form when two-stroke oils are burned are particularly dangerous for modern diesel engines. Because two-stroke oil is a type of motor oil, it leaves different residues when it burns than diesel fuel. Two-stroke oil contains metals such as zinc, whose combustion residues can accumulate on the injector. The residues usually form a strong bond with the injectors due to the high temperatures in the combustion chamber and can no longer be detached so easily. The more residue builds up, the worse the injectors perform and eventually need to be replaced. This happens much less frequently in older diesel engines without common rail injection. This can be due to the different design or the lower injection pressures with which the injectors work.

Combustion residues that attack the particle filter
However, adding two-stroke oil to the fuel is not only bad for vehicles with common rail injection, but also for vehicles with diesel particle filters. Although there are two-stroke oils that do not attack the precious metals in the catalytic converter, this does not automatically mean that they will not damage the diesel particulate filter. Again, it is the combustion residues that can attack the particle filter and make it unusable. Even more harmful, however, is the ash that is produced during the combustion of two-stroke oil in addition to the soot particles from diesel combustion and clogs the particle filter over time. Then the only thing left to do is to replace or clean the particle filter – which is also expensive.

Conclusion on the use of two-stroke oils
The blending of two-stroke oils into diesel fuel is a sensitive issue that has not really been researched. Even diesel technicians and fuel experts do not always agree on this. Nevertheless, one can come to the conclusion that older diesels can at least benefit from the increased lubricity, while modern diesels only have disadvantages. However, the myth that two-stroke oil makes adulterated and contaminated diesel more usable is not correct. While the oil may add some lubricity, it doesn't make it easier to ignite. There are two things drivers of modern diesels can do to ensure their fuel injection system has a long service life: Regularly drain the fuel filter or replace it if necessary.
 
Last edited:
Top
AdBlock Detected

We get it, advertisements are annoying!

Sure, ad-blocking software does a great job at blocking ads, but it also blocks useful features of our website like our supporting vendors. Their ads help keep Steel Soldiers going. Please consider disabling your ad blockers for the site. Thanks!

I've Disabled AdBlock
No Thanks