Unknown Connector.

[rboltz]

Two Questions;
Anyone ever see this connector? It is NOT a mate for the common vehicle receptacle like we have on our trucks. It has no MS numbers.

It is riveted on with "drive pin" blind rivets. Can these be drilled out or must you grind off the head? If I can't find a mate, I'll replace it with a modern MS connector.

 

[area52]

Slave cable connector? Old style?

 

[SCSG-G4]

Depending on where it is, it could be a connector for a shop van main power. depending on whether you want to keep the 'military look' or not. If not look at RV power inlets, or marine (boat) power inlets.

 

[Dodge man]

IF this is held on with drive pins then they can be pried out. A Drive Pin is like a fluted nail but the flutes are in a spiral and not straight. I've taken lots of them out of 'Jones' connectors. Just pry up the edge and then grab them under the head with diagonal cutters and twist and pull them out. What do the 'pins' go into? Drive Pins usually are used for soft material like plastic and are not used on steel in my experience. I suspect these are rivets and not Drive Pins.

This looks like a main power connector for some piece of equipment such as a search light or a radio. What kind of vehicle is it on and does the vehicle tag specify that the vehicle came with any particular piece of equipment? Do the wires from this go back to the vehicle batteries?

 

[rboltz]

IF this is held on with drive pins then they can be pried out. A Drive Pin is like a fluted nail but the flutes are in a spiral and not straight. I've taken lots of them out of 'Jones' connectors. Just pry up the edge and then grab them under the head with diagonal cutters and twist and pull them out. What do the 'pins' go into? Drive Pins usually are used for soft material like plastic and are not used on steel in my experience. I suspect these are rivets and not Drive Pins.

This looks like a main power connector for some piece of equipment such as a search light or a radio. What kind of vehicle is it on and does the vehicle tag specify that the vehicle came with any particular piece of equipment? Do the wires from this go back to the vehicle batteries?

They go into aluminum framing behind the wall. You can't see the back side as its inside the wall. There is a pin in the center of the rivet and it is not a "pop" type. This connector in on a 60's vintage AN/GRC-46 communications shelter. It's the power input.

 

[jimm1009]

It looks to be in bad shape anyway.
You can certainly replace it with a modern MS series plug. Just need to know the wire size and current draw to purchase the correct one. The flip side is that your equipment that connects here will have to have the new style mating connector installed on it as well.
If you don't want to replace both and would like to just replace the one on the vehcile you can find the corect number if you have the party number for the equipment side.
I know a company in Indianapolis that markets a couple of name brands that has someone that can tell you what you need if you have the other end identified.
PM or e-mail me and I will give you his name and contact information if you want.
If you are not going to use it for the "military intended" use then just go with something rated for the current draw for your equipment then buy a better, m, more common one and install it.
Environmental conditions are a factor and there are other styles of plating that hold up in today's world as well.

jimm1009 here on s.s. or e-mail: jimm1009@yahoo.com

 

[Jones]

Those rivets have the center pin which sticks out of the head when they're new/unused.
To install, they're slid in the hole and the pin is driven in flush with a hammer. Driving the pin in makes the rivet expand on the shank end.
If you can't get to the back side to drive the pin back out then grinding is the best way. Drilling is a pain because the steel pin is in an aluminum rivet.

 

[Tanner]

Two Questions;
Anyone ever see this connector? It is NOT a mate for the common vehicle receptacle like we have on our trucks. It has no MS numbers.

It is riveted on with "drive pin" blind rivets. Can these be drilled out or must you grind off the head? If I can't find a mate, I'll replace it with a modern MS connector.

Do you see any numbers on the face of the insert? Is that a screw that I see on the center of the insert?

'Tanner'

 

[Dodge man]

Those rivets have the center pin which sticks out of the head when they're new/unused.
To install, they're slid in the hole and the pin is driven in flush with a hammer. Driving the pin in makes the rivet expand on the shank end.
If you can't get to the back side to drive the pin back out then grinding is the best way. Drilling is a pain because the steel pin is in an aluminum rivet.

I think Jones is right. I've seen plastic plugs like what he describes but not metal ones but that doesn't mean that they don't make them. Try driving the center pin all the way in with a small punch. If it goes in far enough it will fall free. Then you should be able to pry out the outer part of the "rivet'. They can sometimes be difficult to remove because the outer part doesn't always shrink back to it's original size after you remove the center pin.

It does look a lot like the old type vehicle power connector but it's hard to judge the size from the photo and I don't have plug here to measure. Can you measure the pin sizes and the od of the shell and post them here? I'm sure someone can then verify if that's what it is. But the tag also indicates that that's what it is.

 

[Billy Bobbed]

 

[rboltz]

Found it!

After a bit of searching I found the connectors mate. No MS numbers or for that matter, any numbers but it fits. Now, to get it apart, clean it up, and attach new cables.