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Cheek
01-27-2005, 02:00
HELLO![/I]</FONT>

ARE THERE ANY OTHER IFA OWNERS OUT THERE?!!!





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WARNING! WARNING! WARNING!



KENNETH KOCH OF

m35a1@juno.com

954-427-8167

UglyTrux.Com

417 Sheridan Street #232

Dania Beach, Florida

33004



Broward County Sheriff's

954-926-2400---www.Sheriff.org (http://www.Sheriff.org)

Complaint # BS05-02-7516









The first completely newly developed truck from <FONT color=red>GDR Manufacturing was the IFA H, which developed starting from 1951 in IFA%2BW-50%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DG] (http://216.239.39.104/translate_c?hl=en&amp;u=http://home.knuut.de/alepper/Horch.html&amp;prev=/search%3Fq%3D H covered the need below the heavy H6 and in large numbers of items, also for the export, was manufactured. 1957 took place the advancement to the H3S, one year later were called the truck then S 4000. S stood for collective combine VEB Saxonia ring, into which one had combined the past Horch work and the former DKW work in Zwickau. But already one year later, 1959, took place the repeated advancement to S 4000-1.
1960 were shifted then the entire manufacturing of S 4000-1-Reihe von Zwickau in the neighbouring vehicle work, <FONT color=white>of Werdau. Not only outwardly there were close relationship to the large H6. both are based on engines from a development series. In the H/S4000 a 4-Zylinder-Diesel worked also at the beginning of 80 HP of achievement, in the H6 after the unit construction system of derived 6-Zylinder with 120 HP. As S 4000-1 in the course of the advancement the pay load had been increased to , the achievement amounted to now 90 HP. Until 1967 S 4000-1 in Werdau one built in such a way. Approximately 40,000 vehicles developed for 16jaehrigen production time in that well.

Until 1958 the H6 is built both in the VEW work Horch Zwickau and in IFA%2BW-50%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DG]<FONT color=#0000ff>the vehicle work Ernst (http://216.239.39.104/translate_c?hl=en&amp;u=http://home.knuut.de/alepper/ErnstGrube.html&amp;prev=/search%3Fq%3D and last an engine performance of 180 HP. After 1956 the production of the H6 ran out gradually.

In March 1956 in the context of the avoidance of doubling developments (in Warsaw Pact the states) by the advice for mutual economic aid (RGW) small and middle passenger cars and truck under <FONT color=red>5 Tons of pay load were assigned to the GDR.
1962 were introduced in Ludwig field the IFA W-45, (Prototype of the W-50), developed by engineers of from Werdau. It nevertheless possessed a diesel engine. The entrance consisted of a few welded together iron pipes over the front axle turned out too briefly.
From 1965 to 1990 built W-50 reached end of 1985 430,000 pieces was estimated with an export quota of 70% in the socialist brother states as low-priced and durable trucks and. For its own engine development there were however no capacities, 1967 the license for <FONT color=#0000ff>the MAN m-procedure was bought. The pay load amounts to depending upon execution up to , the transmission had 5 courses.

The IFA W 50 with first 110, then with 125 HP, was as 4x4 for agriculture and military an export success (pay load approx. <FONT color=red>8 Tons with the Allrad-W50).

<CENTER>Vehicle</CENTER><CENTER>IFA W 50</CENTER><CENTER>Engine data</CENTER><CENTER>R4, Diesel, suction engine, 2V/Zyl.</CENTER><CENTER>Achievement</CENTER><CENTER>92 KW (125 HP)</CENTER>
In the 1952 in enterprise work in Ludwig field, gone, among other things the small transporter "Diesel ant" was built, which 1957 the vehicle work walter living took over. On this basis the Multicar 21 was introduced to 1961, a narrow light load car, which got over the turn as only GDR commercial motor vehicle.

By the IFA W-50 a tractor was abgeitet, the . Starting from 1967 there was this tractor with 125 HP, to which a course load of <FONT color=yellow>25 Tons

In the 70's IFA presented the 1013, which was never built however from lack of capital in series.

A new development, which was built in series, was the L 60, which was presented 1986.
The L-60 is considered as a successor of the W-50 however parallel with the W-50 starting from 1987 was manufactured. Now the tiltably implemented driving cab represents like the entire L-60 a new development, which resembles only the W-50 strongly. Frameworks, suspension, axles, etc. are all intensified, more stable advancements (above all larger and heavier). Transmission (8-Gang), clutch and brakes (hydraulic-pneumatic two-circular braking system) correspond completely to the standard of the western countries at present the development of the <FONT color=red>L-60. are also based the entire technology on compressed air. The W-50 had only hydraulic brake with compressed air support. Those max. Pay load was increased to , the trailer weight amounts to <FONT color=red>16 Tons.


<CENTER>Vehicle</CENTER><CENTER>IFA L 60</CENTER><CENTER>Engine data</CENTER><CENTER>R6, Diesel, suction engine, 2V/Zyl.</CENTER><CENTER>Achievement</CENTER><CENTER>132 KW (180 HP)</CENTER>
As novelty the IFA 60 L was introduced to 1989.

After the turn 1989 IFA von IFA%2BW-50%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DG] (http://216.239.39.104/translate_c?hl=en&amp;u=http://home.knuut.de/alepper/Db.html&amp;prev=/search%3Fq%3D[b)was taken over. First still [/b]IFA%2BW-50%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DG]<FONT color=#0000ff>Mercedes (http://216.239.39.104/translate_c?hl=en&amp;u=http://home.knuut.de/alepper/Mb.html&amp;prev=/search%3Fq%3D[b)of vehicles ("easy Woerther") under the label name IFA were sold (IFA1120), then disappeared the signature of the vehicles (1990).

One, both again and used, gets spare parts for the W50 and L60 directly ex factory Ludwig field. Tel. 03378/80 46 56 or 04533/80 61.

Recovry4x4
01-27-2005, 02:50
Jeff, I was going to refer you to Ken Koch but I see you already found him.

Elwenil
01-27-2005, 03:49
What exactly is that anyway? Looks sort of Soviet, or Eastern European. It's not US is it? Looks like a US bed, but what sort of tires are those? Just curious...

Recovry4x4
01-27-2005, 09:57
It's an eastern bloc truck. 3 ton if I recall correctly. Has CTIS and locking diffs. Those trucks are pretty common across the pond but few are here. That one was sold on the GSA website and was without a bed. Good eyes on the bed though. It's a common 5 ton bed delivered to the previous owner by ....me. Its a behemoth of a truck and has a hole in the roof on the passenger side for a ring mount. I've not actually seen it since he's had it running. Good luck with it Jeff! Are you driving it home from Pompano Beach or having it shipped? Oh, by the way, there are little 14" sections of bed rails missing on that truck right there on the front of the troop seats. I remember seeing stacks of those at Wayne Harris place if you need them.

imported_admin
01-27-2005, 12:31
Hey Jeff, looks like a cool truck so I opened a new forum just for it and moved your post!

steelsoldiers
01-28-2005, 22:36

Elwenil
01-29-2005, 03:01

Recovry4x4
01-29-2005, 09:59

steelsoldiers
01-29-2005, 23:01

JeffsIFAW50
01-30-2005, 01:06

steelsoldiers
01-30-2005, 14:30

steelsoldiers
01-30-2005, 17:45

Longhunter7
02-07-2005, 12:55

Longhunter7
02-08-2005, 01:01

steelsoldiers
02-08-2005, 22:12

steelsoldiers
02-13-2005, 21:22

Matthias
02-15-2005, 16:08

Longhunter7
02-15-2005, 18:58

Desert Rat
02-16-2005, 12:23

Matthias
02-16-2005, 16:02

steelsoldiers
02-16-2005, 16:56

Elwenil
02-18-2005, 14:13

Matthias
02-18-2005, 15:06

Matthias
02-18-2005, 15:49

steelsoldiers
02-18-2005, 17:25

steelsoldiers
02-19-2005, 11:51

Matthias
02-19-2005, 16:14

Desert Rat
02-19-2005, 23:27

steelsoldiers
02-20-2005, 02:18

steelsoldiers
02-21-2005, 22:12

vtunimog
02-27-2005, 11:39
Mattias -



Great to hear from fellow "German Iron" collectors out there. I haven't had much experience with IFA's They look somewhat like a cross between a Robur and a SIMCA (renault). Was IFA an East German company ? Seems like DC/Mercedes has swallowed up so many larger truck companies now I guess that is why they are the worlds largest heavy truck producer.



I like the shelter on the back, is that a Russian shelter for a Kamaz ?



Cheers,



Chris M

Cheek
03-01-2005, 05:28
Hello Chris![/I]

<FONT color=#0000ff>IFA was an East German Company who was bought out by Diamler/Benz in '90. I posted some history on this truck in the first post if you want to check it out. I've seen a giant Tatra 8x8 like you are getting and they are a Monster! You would like the "Mowag Piranah"! It's also an 8x8 with 4 wheel steering!



<FONT color=#0000ff>Later!

Matthias
03-06-2005, 16:26
,



The W50 was a transporter for the East German army (NVA). The Russians had other vehicles like Sis, Sil, Ural, Kras, Kamaz.

!!!



<FONT color=orange> Bye,

<FONT color=orange> Matthias

ehsankiani
03-08-2005, 21:56
Hello there
I dont own a military truck but there are a lot of them around me.. :). I was reffered here by someone on the Pirate4x4 forum. Thought I would join up and send you some pics/info from this side of the globe as well as learn some new stuff from this amazing forum..
This is the picture I posted today at Pirate that led me here.. Its lting here in a junk yard. I wish I had the resources to buy that..
Thanks
Ehsan

Cheek
03-09-2005, 03:57
Hello Ehsan! [/I]

Welcome to the forum! It is nice of you to post photos! It would be nice to save that one from the scrap heap! It looks like an early IFA W-50. I would like to know its history and background! There are some good parts on it too!

ehsankiani
03-10-2005, 14:05
I dont have enough money to buy this truck but I can get any parts off of it if you need them. This was bought at an auction from the Pakistan Army by its current owner..
Ehsan

Cheek
03-12-2005, 02:27
Hello Ehsan,
Thanks for offering to help with obtaining parts off the old IFA. I do not need any parts except for some air switches that probably aren't on that year truck. I will tell Matthias about it in case he might need some parts! Too bad it can't be saved and fixed up one day!
I will talk to you again later. Take Care

Cheek
04-28-2005, 16:41
<FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #000000" face="Times New Roman" color=#0000ff> I've put about 1,500 miles on my truck since my last post! It has performed



<FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #000000" face="Times New Roman" color=#0000ff>line connector had vibrated loose and the compressor belt needed adjusting.



<FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #000000" face="Times New Roman" color=#0000ff>by the gallon! It held just over 20 quarts! It does run extremely well and I've



<FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #000000" face="Times New Roman" color=#0000ff>problems. It does tend to start to porpoise at about 40-42 but it stops pretty



<FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #000000" face="Times New Roman" color=#0000ff>some on certain bumps and one time the only thing keeping me from flying

<FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #000000" face="Times New Roman" color=#0000ff>you



<FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #000000" face="Times New Roman" color=#0000ff>pretty cool unpainted! I haven't rebuilt the troop seats yet but didn't really



<FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #000000" face="Times New Roman" color=#0000ff>the seats in a few weeks but I mainly wanted the sides up to be able to use



<FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #000000" face="Times New Roman" color=#0000ff> Later! :)

steelsoldiers
05-02-2005, 17:57
Looks great Jeff, you gotta try and come to Haspin in July. Sounds like it is ready to make the trip now. Keep up the good work and keep us posted.

Cheek
05-06-2005, 01:45
Hello!

I took this pic the other day to help show how high my truck actually sits! The sign is standard height! I once had to look over a sign to see if anything was coming! That was a trip! I was driving my truck the other day and my compressor belt shredded on me! It was the only thing left to replace and I should have changed it but it wasn't broken so I didn't fix it! I had to stop 3 times to get turned around but manged to drive it back home with the air left in my tank. I drove about 20 miles and didn't use the brakes once! It took skill, anticipating lights and granny helped me out too! I had a little under a half a tank of air left and the brakes locked down on me when I stopped in my driveway! I almost squashed a VW Beetle in front of my house as this idiot woman tried to pass me on the right when I was taking a wide right turn into my driveway! I guessed she thought the blinker was for something else! I gave her a hand signal I will not mention here! I figured it was a matter of time before that happened. It is amazing to me how many stupid people will actually pull right out in front of you! The next person that does that to me will have an extremely rude awakening! What do you get when you cross a passenger car with a 12,500 lb. truck? A Pancake!

When I bent the fan belt to check it, it broke in half! They were original as they had the date on them which was 11/82! I replaced them with GoodYear GatorBacks!

I would like to make the 6.5 hour trip to Haspin but I don't think I will be able to because I don't have the extra cash to spend on gas! It is about 325 miles from here. I might be able to make it, I don't know yet. I took some cool pics at the Armory today in Nashville! I will probably post them in the "conversation" thread so look for them there!

Later! :)

Opie
05-06-2005, 04:07
Jeff,

I'll second you on the importance of changing the ancient rubber under the hood. I blew a radiator hose on my '68 Volvo 144S late on a Christmas Eve many years ago en route to the future Mrs. Hannon's house. My parents, God bless them, aren't mechanically inclined and had never had any such 'unnecessary' work done on the then 22 year old car...

Cheek
06-30-2005, 05:36
Hello Again!

I have to admit that driving Giant Trucks is Extremely Addictive! I have not driven my truck in about a week and I am having withdrawal syptoms! I have found myself finding, or shall I say, making up reasons to drive it. I actually offered my truck to help a friend move! It was a couple of counties from here and I have to say that "Brutus" performed very well! I was driving it daily for awhile until it got so hot here! I have put over 2,000 miles on it and have almost gotten it up to 60 but it will only do about 56-57 hammering it! That is a little too fast for most driving conditions but I have discovered that if I do 55 mph Everywhere, it kind of evens the trip out! HiHiHi! I have been to 4 Cruise-Ins and plan to attend at least 2 AACA Shows around here soon. I have recently installed the canvas top and one of the old troop seats. I designed it to have seperate sides and I just leave the seat down. If it gets in the way, I will just take it out. I will close now and will post a few pics I took right after I installed the top. In the last pic, I tried to show the view from up in the drivers seat but the pic would have been better if a car was driving by! I enjoy looking Down into the cabs of the many semis who blow me away on the Interstate! A Woman Dump Truck Driver once stopped right beside me and gave me that ever familiar look like: What Is Wrong With You? She then just shook her head a few times as she was driving away!

I have since replaced the funky ropes on the sides of the top with those bungee cord thingies with the black ball on them. Home Depot has them for their portable car ports and they work very well! I just custom cut them as needed. I will post some more pics soon, especially when I find a Mud Hole to go and tear up!

Everybody Have A Good One And Take Care!

Jeff :)

M1075
06-30-2005, 08:26
I like it Jeff. Thanks for the update. I was wondering where you have been. Enjoying your ride, of course!

cranetruck
06-30-2005, 15:12
Looks like a model for the FMTV's.
Any chance of seeing close-ups of electrical connectors and components?

Cheek
07-03-2005, 13:06
I can take any pics you might like to see of the IFA! Do you mean like pics of the fusebox, switches, etc? It does have the fuses like the VW's had! I'll show my ignorance now by asking what is the "FMTV"? I was just wondering!



<FONT color=#0000ff>Jeff :)

M1075
07-03-2005, 15:11
Jeff-

Family of Medium Tactical Vehicles by Stewart & Stevenson. Replacement for 2.5 & 5 tonners.

Try this link: http://www.army.mil/fact_files_site/fmtv/

or jush search the internet

cranetruck
07-03-2005, 18:36
Yeah, Jeff, switches, connectors, fusebox that sort of thing. Just curious about how they are ruggedized and waterproofed.
Thanks,

oldordie
03-10-2006, 00:33
Jeff, I'm new to this forum and not sure if this will reach you. I have an 85 model W50 that is a cab/chassis with a winch. Whatever was attached to the back was removed before it was imported. It sat for the last 6 years with a broken master cylinder reservoir and old fuel. It only has 1800km on the odometer. Replaced all the fuel lines, pulled the fuel control and had cleaned, pulled the master cylinder apart and cleaned good. Runs like a top now and drove it home to Lebanon from Woodbury last week. Would love to get together and compare some notes. Have a lot if little items to fix yet and not easy without manuals and the ability to speak German. If you can help, would really appreciate it, thanks.

Dizel Man
01-06-2010, 16:29
IFA W50 in Russia. Welcome to: (http://ifaw50.forum24.ru/)
Best regards and 73!!!