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Well, since the FEDERAL law exempts ALL VEHICLES OLDER THAN 25 YEARS FROM ALL FMVSS REQUIREMENTS, it would appear that IowaDOT cannot refuse registration for milvehs over that age based on any FMVSS or labeling requirement, nor can they hold the owner responsible for proving FMVSS compliance...

This brings up a valid point, at least with regard to the Wisconsin DOT: MAKE SURE YOU SEND YOUR APPLICATION PPWK TO WisDOT VIA CERTIFIED US MAIL, AND KEEP PHOTOCOPIES OF EVERYTHING YOU SEND THEM!!! It was not unknown for them to "lose" paperwork, only to mysteriously "find" it when informed...

cx65083, Out of curiosity, what kind of vehicle did you get registered, and what plate type did you get? Dezarms, Just FYI, we don't anticipate any legislation until next Jan., which means that ex-mil vehicles over 10,000 GVW built after Sept. 1969 probably won't get titled & registered (for...

Wow! Sorry to hear of your loss. But not to have you feeling too badly for too long, I noticed there's a 5-ton in Middleton on Craigslist. I'll pm the link, since they're funny about that here on SS.

Brady, You may have trouble retrofitting the harness in due to the weird mounting point of the inboard lap strap. I've never seen a successful modification of the front seat belts beyond the original design. You might want to try to install some mount into the cage, as the cage is a big part...

A couple of thoughts, from what we've been through here: The authority which sets FMVSS requirements: the Federal Govt., is the same authority that determines which former military vehicles may be resold as surplus on-road licensable Motor Vehicles, and only provides SF-97 forms for obtaining a...

We've just learned that the "effective date" for the newly passed 2011 Wis. Act 235 will be July 2, 2012. This means that beginning July 2, all pre-'70 (Oct. 1, 1969) former military vehicle, U.S. & foreign, may register for normal registration options. This includes all weight vehicles...

DieselBob, Thanks, but Huh?!? What about winning DOA Case# TR-08-0027, passage of 2009 Wis. Act 225, defeat of TRANS-123, winning DOA Case# TR-11-0016, and preventing DOT from winning DOA Case# TR-11-0028... Face it. They were wrong. We've been handing them their tails here for a while...

TO ALL, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR EFFORTS!! IT'S OFFICIAL. GOV. WALKER SIGNED OUR BILL INTO LAW YESTERDAY. SB-462 is now 2011 Wisconsin Act 235. AS WE WROTE PREVIOUSLY, WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH DOT FOR PASSAGE OF THE OTHER PROVISIONS WHICH WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THIS BILL *: RE-WRITE...

VTwin, Agreed. Col.H., Nothing firm yet from the Capitol. However, DOT has indicated that he will. We're just waiting... P

VTwin, You mean that blue one? Did you read how much the Mopar portal axles alone cost?? Like $21K!?!?! I'll stick with my Pinzgauer, because I could buy 2 whole trucks for less than just that Jeep's axles cost!! But it was cool, just in case they wanted to give one away...

We sent this Email out yesterday to our contact group: ANNOUNCING BIG GAINS FOR OWNERS OF FORMER MILITARY VEHICLES In discussions with DOT, Tom has secured the following agreements. Effective Immediately: ANY former U.S. military vehicle under 10,000 GVW may register for regular...

Some further thoughts on your problems... Another issue with the statute you quoted is the matter of the certification label itself. Federal law requires the label to be permanently applied, but that does not mean that the label must remain permanently. It means that the adhesive must be such...

Some thoughts for you guys to check into: ALL vehicles, including former military vehicles, are EXEMPTED from FMVSS requirements so long as they are older than 25 years. BY FAR, the majority of former military vehicles which are sold with SF-97s are already older than 25 years old. Look up...

To set the record straight: Those THANKS go to Tom, of Alfa Heaven, for all his planning and hard work. Extra THANKS go to his wife Dale, because without her internet knowledge and common sense input, we'd all have been lost!

VTwin, As far as details go, I've pretty much been living this thing for the past nearly 5 years. Taken in total, it's incredibly complicated and convoluted. Because of this, it's easy to misunderstand what is happening. In order to effect the change we need, we all need to be acting in...

Vtwin, I'm confident CUCV's will come out of this fully legal. The Blazer in the appeal received a clear Collector plate already. The Blazers should be fine NOW. WisEYE is what it is. Google them, and email for info on a transcript. I don't know if such exists. Dezarms, Tough questions...

Trukhead and Dezarms, Not every aspect of this is guaranteed, especially as it applies to those vehicles less than 25 y.o. The bill did not go through exactly as we initially wrote it. There will likely be some details that evolve. We've only managed to repeal one of two problematic statutes...

Flyingvan911, Post-68 military vehicles are another change we hope to be addressing with DOT in the coming months, and we expect to be working on legislation next year. The bill, assuming it gets signed into law, only repeals the statute [341.10(6m)] which denies registration for milvehs...

Motor Vehicle Registration Rights Bill SB-462 / AB-580 UPDATE SUCCESS IN THE LEGISLATURE! The Wisconsin legislature passed the repeal of 341.10(6m) on Friday. It now just needs Gov. Walker's signature to become LAW. This will restore regular registration for all 1969 and older ex...