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On Monday, I will be in contact with Rep. Steinbrink's office (he's the Chair of the Assy. Transportation Committee) to schedule a meeting with he and Rep. Zigmunt (AB-592's author). I had a meeting last month with Rep. Zigmunt in which I raised the need to also allow ex-military vehicles to...

No pix, but that's what I use my M35A2 for too. I got 5 loads with it this summer. It's the only time she gets to grunt anymore! Fully loaded, it's about all we can do to get up a couple hills in 2nd gear. But it's hauling about 10 times the load my Toyota can do. :-D For guys who only...

Hi Gents, Thanks for following this thread. If any of you wouldn't mind sending me your own personal info on an email (or US mail too), it would be a lot more convincing when I take it to the capitol. I can refer to comments on forums, but it's seen as just hearsay, essentially. If you don't...

CatMan, Can I assume from your post that the other 46 US states DON'T have those laws requiring restricted use? I've gotten emails from the following states attesting to their citizens owning and operating ex-mil vehicles WITHOUT having to register as restricted use vehicles. These states...

You're certainly welcome. Thanks for reading it. I just don't believe that WisDOT is right in this. I'll do what I can to correct that. Paul

Tmbrwolf, Thanks. I've done some searching of DOT sites, especially neighboring states, to compare their policies for registration of ex-mils. But I'm finding that the elected officials don't often have the time to really read that sort of stuff through thouroughly. I point 'em to it, and...

Ron and all, Just FYI, You've probably seen it already, but I'll note here that I tried to post some of the previous thread back up as this: http://www.steelsoldiers.com/politics-related-mv-hobby/44509-wis-dot-v-ex-military-vehicles-ab-592-a.html

I'm looking for help. You probably have read about the current fiasco in Wisconsin over titling and registering ex-military vehicles. If not, here's a link with some info: http://www.steelsoldiers.com/politics-related-mv-hobby/44509-wis-dot-v-ex-military-vehicles-ab-592-a.html It turns out...

Here's one for you. All this mess occurred when DOT suddenly started to interpret Wis. Stat. 341.10(6) as meaning: If any vehicle lacks a NHTSA FMVSS-compliance label, the vehicle is an "off-road" vehicle, which the DOT must refuse to register. I still contend that Wis. Stat. 341.10(6)...

Document Requirements are too vague to enforce fairly. 341.269(2) is too vague about the specific documents needed to register a vehicle, and puts a potentially impossible burden on the applicant to provide documentation of a vehicle's past. What constitutes "evidence satisfactory to the...

I'm posting this thread to repost some comments I'd made earlier regarding the ongoing struggle in Wis. to secure operating rights for ex-military vehicles. I guess it's my Blog to Counter the DOT's Blog. In fairness, here's a link to the DOT-biased blog: http://wihmvbill.blogspot.com...

Yeah, thats the thread I guess. Hello Ron, Sorry for the delay. The hearing was rather brief. Rep. Zigmunt spoke for less than 5 min. Jeff Rowsam and the DOT representative gave longer talks. One Pinzgauer owner was allowed to talk. Then I got my chance, and was not allowed to complete...

I've written to ask the forum moderators, but got no reply. Maybe I'm losing my mind. (It's possible) Last week I posted a notice about the Assembly hearing which was held 12/3/09 at our Capitol regarding AB592 about registration of HMVs. The thread disappeared two days ago. I found it in...

FINALLY!! Thanks to Tom Landmann, here's the link to Senator Erpenbach's proposed bill: http://www.wisconsin-pinzgauers.org/sites/default/files/Pinzgauer%20Bill%20-%2009-35621.pdf Please read this over. Thank you, Paul

Hi Again, Yes, people from outside of Wisconsin will not have any influence on Wisconsin representatives. Any other forms of help are welcome - encouragement, publicity, funds (if needed, so far not), etc. Legit reasons? Well, none that I've seen. WisDOT has not provided any statistical...

Chuck, Better to just stop this bill, and get a better one drafted. Please check the thread about a Better WisDOT proposal. Sen. Jon Erpenbach has drafted a much better proposal which would allow ALL historic military vehicles to be registered as "collector" vehicles, no matter the age of the...

Hi Electrons, Actually, Sen. Erpenbach's bill was created before Zigmunt's was. His office has been busily soliciting support. Last word from them was that they had 14 Senators co-authoring it, including Sen. Holperin, the head of the Senate Committee for Transportation. They were still...

Qbubba51, Glad to hear that you've gotten your truck on the road. But I couldn't agree with you more. The recent proposal doesn't allow adequate use of the vehicles. Please see the more recent post "A BETTER WisDOT Proposal" for another suggestion. Paul Underwood

Hi, For those of you who don't know me, I'm one of the Pinzgauer owners who's been involved in this fight with WisDOT since day one. I've read the previous thread regarding the proposed bill being sponsored by Rep. Zigmunt. You need to know that there is an alternative bill, being sponsored...

Attention ALL Wisconsin Residents As you're probably aware, Wisconsin Dept. of Transportation (WisDOT) is seeking additional authority to inspect many older vehicles, such as pre-1968, ex-U.S. Military, and imported vehicles. A copy of the proposed rule is available here: Trans 123 Public...