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He is MOST DEFINITELY INCORRECT. I just sent an email to John Varden MVPA about it. WisDOT is attempting to introduce legislation "sometime in '09, hopefully" to address this. In the meantime, the owners of Pinzgauers are OFF THE ROAD. Please look up http://www.wisconsin-pinzgauers.org/...

The previous comments about WisDOT going after U.S. ex-military vehicles is absolutely correct. When we first raised objections to WisDOT's actions of refusing to register a U.S. Jeep in August, '07, and cancelling Pinzgauers operating privileges in Sept. '07, WisDOT BACKED DOWN on U.S. HMVs...

RE: pinz owner Ditto just finding the Pinz section. Happy Thanksgiving Day. I've got a '76 712M that I bought in '02. I'm west of Madison. Love the truck. The repairs have been manageable and reasonably affordable (you know...). Everybody loves it. Most capable truck I've ever owned...

Hi all, thanks for the input and support. I've been preparing a letter to the local editor to address the misinformation in the article. Madsam, thanks for the observation regarding prior ownership. I intend to plagiarize that comment. The other two issues are ones I raise in my letter...

Here's the text: SOS: State law may take historic military vehicles off the road Chris Rickert crickert@madison.com Over the last four years, Mike Ponty estimates he's put $15,000 into restoring his World War II jeep, a vehicle he said cost $860 when it rolled off the assembly line in 1942, not...

The Sunday issue of Madison's Wisconsin State Journal contained the following article :http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/local/wonder/sos/index.php?ntid=257901&ntpid=1 Paul

2pm here. Sen. Erpenbach's office called and informed me that the WisDOT is currently researching this matter further, checking into other state's approaches, essentially, and investigating how to go about licensing HMVs. I said that was great news. I asked that people, like me, who have rather...

Sorry David, my spring hanger comment was totally meant in sarcasm. You are, of course, right. There are a lot of differing reasons why we own/operate our vehicles. Hopefully the law gets amended to allow all ex-mil vehicle ownership and operation. The use of "HMV" seems approriate, and...

It is a common assumption up in Cheeseland that if WisDOT succeeds in banning HMVs, rural FDs are certainly in for trouble too. Personally, I hope any legislation does not dictate an exact restoration, I'd like to be able to paint mine purple or some such ridiculous color. Ditto the "no...

Hello everybody, I'd like to update everyone on my meeting this morning with my Senator, Jon Erpenbach. Due to a conflict, George Stauffer was unable to attend with me. However, I was accompanied by Tom Landmann (Pinz owner from Dodgeville, WI) and Donne C. Harned , Brig. Gen. USAF ret. (my...

Hello everybody, I'd like to update everyone on my meeting this morning with my Senator, Jon Erpenbach. Due to a conflict, George Stauffer was unable to attend with me. However, I was accompanied by Tom Landmann (Pinz owner from Dodgeville, WI) and Donne C. Harned , Brig. Gen. USAF ret. (my...

Hi All, Good words above from DDoyle and John @ Iola. I just spoke with Mr. Doeckel from Sen. Erpenbach's office, and yes, they are concerned about getting deluged with calls/letters from outside of their districts. They are only able to provide representation for their own constituents, and...

Hi AJMBLAZER, Thanks, I thought about that a bit, but here's how it seems to me; Wis DMV is targeting all U.S. vehicles because they were ex-military and ex-military means non-roadworthy, to them. But I'm not sure if they are targeting Pinzes for being ex-mil or for missing some equipment, as...

Hi, Please see posting under Wis DOT cancels Pinz titles. Mtg. w/ Sen Erpenbach's office & DMV on Mon. 10/22/07 10am. All WI pinz owners please call Paul Underwood 608 437-3465 by Fri. night if you can/will attend. Thanks Paul

Hi all, I spoke today with a staffer from Senator Jon Erpenbach's office, Mr. Robert Doeckel, who related to me that they had inquired with the DMV and were told essentially "sorry, too bad". As far as DMV is concerned, ALL em-military vehicles are non-roadworthy. I inquired about the...

David, I PM'd you but it may not have been sent properly; My Pinz is/was titled with regular "light truck" plates, with a "C" rating which in Wisconsin means maximum gross weight is 8,000 lbs. I avoided the other plates because they limit what, when, or where you could drive the truck...

4 star Gen. in Madison, You are obviously speaking with a bit of experience. Thanks for weighing in. Ft. McCoy notwithstanding, there are apparently a lot of us that either cannot register newly purchased ex-mil vehicles, or like me, have ex-mil vehicles which have been registered for years...

Update - This IS involving ALL Historic Military Vehicles in Wisconsin. I have received a copy of a letter from Wis. Senator Mike Ellis to the head of the WisDOT - DMV concerning an ex U.S. Military Jeep which Wisconsin is, so far, refusing to register. The letter is dated Sept. 6, 2007, and...

Hi, Paul Underwood here. I am the guy who first posted the notice on the real4x4 board, and it is my Pinzgauer 712M which first personally involved me. I received a letter exactly like the one shown here (above) last Friday. I have owned the truck 4 or 5 years. I bought it from...