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Why are we doing this? - because of axle wrap. Why do we have axle wrap? - because the springs bend. Where do the springs bend? - where they attach to the axle. Therefore, the closer you get to the spring/axle point, the closer you get to a 'neutral' point where the links won't do much of...

Those are looking good.

Dunno - not that long, though. I can measure tomorrow. The existing setup on my truck stops short of the fuel tank (and now a second toolbox on D-side). Utilizing the same axle brackets makes it tough to mount behind those items. If I were to do it again, I'd go longer and utilize a...

I think it would work fine in a deuce. I think the finer points we've been discussing don't much matter at all in a bob'er but may have serious complications in a competitive vehicle where the finer points win. These work great in pulling trucks where you don't want much suspension travel at...

It is now - that what I want? That F'd it up for a minute...

No, not less effective. The discussion before is about bind and if the single traction bar will limit suspension travel. In theory. Picture the design that Lt Dan just put up - this is exactly what I had in my mind from your description, yes? If you move the axle up and down, as it would for...

This was my problem - I have added huge blocks to make lift; greatly compounding the problem. However, also seeing what hop does to a rear end off-road, even if I went with lift springs, I still would have addressed stabilizing the rear axle to ensure that even a little bit of wrap (which...

well, sorta... and that was my challenge: for the simplicity and in practical scenarios, articulation just isn't there to begin with. That's all. No worries. No, no harm in discussion. Ain't mad, bro. agreed. I understand the 4-link design - spent lots of time researching the 4-link...

and, to me, it looks like most of the articulation is from the front - makes sense because there's much more weight on the front than rear. I just don't think I can get enough flex out of the rear to worry about traction bars being the limiting factor.

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exactly how will they bind given the actual articulation that is present (read: is not present)? There simply is not enough weight in a bob'er and the springs simply don't have enough travel to provide enough articulation to the point that it will bind. yeah, all those other anti-wrap bars...

just remember that the rear axle of a bob'er isn't going to articulate like a rock crawler and not even as much as the stock dual rear setup... A rear wheel will lift before the springs max which is well before the joints bind.

I think you'll find that pulling them off won't help off-road, they shouldn't hinder anything. Actually, they will help keep hop away.

i'm trying to reply and post a pic of my traction bars. the attachment window has crashed my browser 3 times in a row. It'd be great if this site had modern forum reliability like everywhere else on the 'net... i was trying to say my traction bars are great and blah blah blah. so tired of...