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    Once again, APOLOGIES to Austringer for the deviation on his thread.

    Here's picts of the Dragoon. We got it from the Littlefield auction last year. As with so many other vehicles from that auction, the description DID NOT match the actual condition of the vehicle. The Dragoon was/is NOT in running condition.

    Problems identified so far: Batteries, Transmission, control systems (parts for this were in boxes in the Radio Operator's Area), Tires, Brakes, Steering, Missing Engine Compartment Panels. Missing Seats. Hydraulics, hoses, lines, and pumps. Waterproofing seals, and plugs. Bilge Pumps.

    We will not be updating this thread very often, as the vehicle is located at a shop 20 Miles as a crow flies, and 45 miles by road from us.
    But as we hit milestones we will up date with new pictures.

    Once restored to full operational condition we plan to add a Day/Night Thermal Camera System, on a boom, which will be operated from the Radio Operator's station. Also a 360 Degree camera system for the driver/Co Driver. That is,,, if we can find the room. For those of y'all who haven't been in one of these? Evidently the designers intended for it to be operated by 8 year olds, or members of the Lollipop Guild. Normal Sized or BIG people? FORGET IT. THERE IS "0" room inside.

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    M151A2, with Trailer, US Army
    M151A1 With Trailer (Under Resto)
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    1941 Dodge WC,
    M1009, CUCV Blazer US Army
    M1010 CUCV Ambulance,
    M725 Kiaser Ambulance (Under Resto)
    M998, Hummwv,
    M1045A2 Hummwv, (Under Resto)
    1984 Yamaha 4 Wheeler, U.S. Army,
    2010 Polaris 4 Wheeler, U.S. DHS,
    2009 Garrison M-Gator, USMC
    2000 Field M-Gator with Trailer, U.S. Army,
    Karcher Field Kitchen Trailer, USN/USMC,
    Dragoon APC (under resto)

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    M151A2, with Trailer, US Army
    M151A1 With Trailer (Under Resto)
    XM-161,
    1941 Dodge WC,
    M1009, CUCV Blazer US Army
    M1010 CUCV Ambulance,
    M725 Kiaser Ambulance (Under Resto)
    M998, Hummwv,
    M1045A2 Hummwv, (Under Resto)
    1984 Yamaha 4 Wheeler, U.S. Army,
    2010 Polaris 4 Wheeler, U.S. DHS,
    2009 Garrison M-Gator, USMC
    2000 Field M-Gator with Trailer, U.S. Army,
    Karcher Field Kitchen Trailer, USN/USMC,
    Dragoon APC (under resto)

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    M151A2, with Trailer, US Army
    M151A1 With Trailer (Under Resto)
    XM-161,
    1941 Dodge WC,
    M1009, CUCV Blazer US Army
    M1010 CUCV Ambulance,
    M725 Kiaser Ambulance (Under Resto)
    M998, Hummwv,
    M1045A2 Hummwv, (Under Resto)
    1984 Yamaha 4 Wheeler, U.S. Army,
    2010 Polaris 4 Wheeler, U.S. DHS,
    2009 Garrison M-Gator, USMC
    2000 Field M-Gator with Trailer, U.S. Army,
    Karcher Field Kitchen Trailer, USN/USMC,
    Dragoon APC (under resto)

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    nice find, can't wait to see what updates you have as time goes on

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    Wow the pictures really prove the point of Oompa Loompa crew.
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    As a V-100 driver in Nam in 1970 at the age of 19 we thought they had a lots of room. A couple of years ago as a 63 year old got to see Rory V down in Texas. We question him about the size of the V. It sure seemed like it was a lot smaller than we remember. But, it seems as we were a lot bigger.

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    Yeah,,,,,,,

    I realize that we were ALL a lot skinnier when we were in the service. And I was light infantry, so we either walked or flew to wherever we were going. The only times we thought about armor and their crews was when we were either trying to get as far away from them as possible before the Artillery Hit'em, or when they had gotten themselves in trouble, and we had to go in and rescue them.

    But as Jeremy points out, you can see how little room there is for the driver and co-driver, by looking at my partner sitting there. The running joke between us, is that ONE of us can still wear the class "A" uniform he was issued prior to discharge, and it ain't me. He's got a 36-38 Waist, and is 6'2. A 36" waist is pretty common even today in the Military. And some of the picts I've seen of the Dragoon's Children/grandchildren being used today, don't show any more room than their ancestor.

    The ONLY reasoning I can see for the cramped quarters, is to keep the width of the vehicle within certain limits so that they are maneuverable on city streets. Especially since this type of vehicle and it's variants is sooo popular with law enforcement agencies around the world.

    But knowing that I'm gonna have to let someone ELSE drive my vehicle,,,,, kind of a bummer.
    M151A2, with Trailer, US Army
    M151A1 With Trailer (Under Resto)
    XM-161,
    1941 Dodge WC,
    M1009, CUCV Blazer US Army
    M1010 CUCV Ambulance,
    M725 Kiaser Ambulance (Under Resto)
    M998, Hummwv,
    M1045A2 Hummwv, (Under Resto)
    1984 Yamaha 4 Wheeler, U.S. Army,
    2010 Polaris 4 Wheeler, U.S. DHS,
    2009 Garrison M-Gator, USMC
    2000 Field M-Gator with Trailer, U.S. Army,
    Karcher Field Kitchen Trailer, USN/USMC,
    Dragoon APC (under resto)

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    WOW, this for the little people....Why does the word, ROYAL SHAFT come to mind when looking what you got ...Verus what you paid for..just saying....Best of luck on this one.......Could offset the cost you paid for it, by renting it out as a play house to the cub scouts...

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    Oh don't get me wrong. We're NOT crying sour grapes. We knew what we were getting when we bought it. And we're VERY happy with it. It could be worse!! It could be SOVIET. On my "wish list" is an Israeli-Captured BTR-80 Series.

    Saw them in Israel when I went to Israeli Jump School. The Israeli's ripped out the Russian Engine and Tranny, and replaced with US. They also modified the driver's seats to fit normal people. BUT, the Russians have a MAXIMUM height limit for their Armored Vehicle Crews. (I THINK it's 5'4).

    But armored vehicles aren't the only dichotomy in our military when it comes to size. USAF aircraft land on looooong BEEEEG runways. Yet all their FIGHTER pilots are SMURFS. The US NAVY planes have to land on little itty bitty aircraft carriers, where space is at an absolute MINIMUM, yet THEIR fighter pilots compete with the SEALS for the 6"+ Blondes.
    M151A2, with Trailer, US Army
    M151A1 With Trailer (Under Resto)
    XM-161,
    1941 Dodge WC,
    M1009, CUCV Blazer US Army
    M1010 CUCV Ambulance,
    M725 Kiaser Ambulance (Under Resto)
    M998, Hummwv,
    M1045A2 Hummwv, (Under Resto)
    1984 Yamaha 4 Wheeler, U.S. Army,
    2010 Polaris 4 Wheeler, U.S. DHS,
    2009 Garrison M-Gator, USMC
    2000 Field M-Gator with Trailer, U.S. Army,
    Karcher Field Kitchen Trailer, USN/USMC,
    Dragoon APC (under resto)

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    I don't think anyone means any disrespect. It's an awesome piece to have. I wish it was in my driveway.
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