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YouTube works their algorithms and pitches you similar content after you watch a vid or two.

Then the NSA makes a record of it.
Then Putin and his boys hack that and use it to decide who's our next president. :naner::whistle:
DSCF1648.JPG Brother Ahab you earned this one!:beer:
 

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I think the last time I had a HAMMS was 1971.
Guyfang they brought it back. Coors bought the name and original recipe, and Miller brews it in Milwaukee. Similar with what they did with Pabst several years ago. It's a good beer when it's ice cold and it's hot outside, and it doesn't cost much, about $5.95 for a 12 pack. I think the first beer I had on my 21st birthday was either a Hamm's or a Falstaff.
 

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This is short, at around 2 minutes.

His english is good, and though he flew Me-109's (not 262's) it addresses the issue of the high-scoring (like astronomical) of the German aces.

I think he had 275 kills. It stinks to be a statistic.

I'm parking it here because I'm too lazy to search for somewhere else. :shrugs::mrgreen:


https://youtu.be/STFdRrWBW2w
 

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Goring's on the phone from Freiburg
Said Willi's done quite a job
Hitler's on the phone from Berlin
Says man I'm going to make you a star
Captain von Odin here's you next patrol
A flight of English bombers across the canal
By twelve they will be here
I think you know your job
I think you know your job

That's all I can remember off the top of my head from many, many years ago. Blue Oyster Cult's ME-262.

For another book, try Adolf Galland's The First and the Last.

I've also read Hans Ulrich Rudel's Stuka Pilot

Hana Reitsch (spelling) I Flew for the Fuhrer.

Can't remember who else but a lot of books over the years. Came very close to meeting Galland. He was in touch with a former P47 pilot that lived in our town and came to visit a couple times. I always found out after he left.

Working off memory bank:
Junker Jumo 004 engines . 6 x 30 mm MK108 cannons. It also had the ability to carry R4M rockets under the wings on certain versions. There was also the fighter-bomber, recon, and night fighter versions.

I remember Galland stating that when he first flew it, he felt as if he were being pushed by angels.
 

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Okay, that is a positively strange song! I only knew one song of theirs, but it was rather strange too (Don't Fear the Reaper). That one from waaaaay back in my high school days.

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Goring's on the phone from Freiburg
Said Willi's done quite a job
Hitler's on the phone from Berlin
Says man I'm going to make you a star
Captain von Odin here's you next patrol
A flight of English bombers across the canal
By twelve they will be here
I think you know your job
I think you know your job

That's all I can remember off the top of my head from many, many years ago. Blue Oyster Cult's ME-262.

For another book, try Adolf Galland's The First and the Last.

I've also read Hans Ulrich Rudel's Stuka Pilot

Hana Reitsch (spelling) I Flew for the Fuhrer.

Can't remember who else but a lot of books over the years. Came very close to meeting Galland. He was in touch with a former P47 pilot that lived in our town and came to visit a couple times. I always found out after he left.

Working off memory bank:
Junker Jumo 004 engines . 6 x 30 mm MK108 cannons. It also had the ability to carry R4M rockets under the wings on certain versions. There was also the fighter-bomber, recon, and night fighter versions.

I remember Galland stating that when he first flew it, he felt as if he were being pushed by angels.
Try:The Blond Knight of Germany
The Eric Hartman story. He shot down 352 Allied aircraft.

The Blue Oyster Cult Album cover on the U.S. Issue depicted a ME-262 on the cover. On the back cover I believe it showed the band members dead, on the airstip, having been strafed by the ME-262. The german government forbid its sale here in germany, until a different cover could be printed. I still have my album, and play it every once in awhile. Fine music!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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The Blue Oyster Cult Album cover on the U.S. Issue depicted a ME-262 on the cover. On the back cover I believe it showed the band members dead, on the airstip, having been strafed by the ME-262. The german government forbid its sale here in germany, until a different cover could be printed. I still have my album, and play it every once in awhile. Fine music!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I found the album cover.

I wonder if the story behind the song is any good. :shrugs:

If I find out anything I'll post it.




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Try:The Blond Knight of Germany
The Eric Hartman story. He shot down 352 Allied aircraft.
I second that recommendation, good book.

A quick story about Hartman, told to me by a buddy's dad, John Sr., who was RAF and there at the time-

During the development of the Harrier, the Tripartite evaluation squadron was formed, comprised of British, American, and West German personnel (the expected users of the service aircraft). Amongst many, Erich Hartman and my buddy's dad were two of the pilots involved, flying the P1127.

For one early flight, they were briefed to make a vertical takeoff, take the plane around the pattern, then come back, transition to the hover and make a vertical landing.

Being a British plane, the RAF had first go. Their pilot wobbled into the air, made a wobbly circuit, and a rather wobbly vertical descent to landing.

The American pilot got in, made an only slightly wobbly takeoff, a very nice circuit, and a nice transition to vertical flight, with only some wobble.

Hartman then had his turn. His takeoff and hover was perfect, his circuit was perfect, his transition back into the hover was perfect. But as he started to descend, he began to wobble, and it got worse and worse until he smacked the aircraft into the ground and collapsed the undercarriage.
As everyone was running out to the crashed aircraft, Hartman climbed out and began stomping back towards the hangar, obviously fuming. As he passed everyone going in the opposite direction, he said loudly, in his thick German accent, "Three hundred and fifty three!" and kept going.....

Gerhard Barkhorn was another of the German pilots involved, and I have since read a very similar account of such an event attributed to him (which I suppose would go something like "Three hundred and two!"). So, like all stories from history, someone probably mixed something up somewhere. It is possible that the rather elderly, but spry, gentleman who told me his first-hand account mixed up the two pilots, or someone else did. Still a lovely story.

Another amusing John Sr story, this one witnessed by me. John Sr was visiting in the US, and John Jr and I took him to an airshow. An F-8F Bearcat was performing his flying routine, and John Sr commented on how he had flown those while instructing, I believe he said, the Thai air force, and that the pilot was very good. Afterwards, he said he'd really like to get a close up look at a Bearcat again. I went over to the security folks, explained that John had flown Bearcats, and would they allow him to get out to the ramp and look at it. They readily agreed, and we escorted him out as the Bearcat taxied in to it's spot. Once stopped, and shut down, the pilot leaned out of the cockpit and said "Hello John, you've gotten old!" to which John replied "Indeed, Howard. So have you".

Cheers
 
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The "Star of Africa" is a good read also.

Biography of Hans Marseille, WWII German ace dead at 27 I think it was.

He kind of laughed in the face of all the Nazi ideology.

But he loved flying, and he was so incredibly good as a fighter pilot that even Goering and Hitler overlooked his antics. It's a good read.


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The Me-262 originally came in both single and two-seat versions. The two-seater was designed as a night-fighter.

During WWII, many P-51s (and other planes) had a second seat added by squadron maintenance shops on war weary machines to use as squadron hacks (for flying about doing business, rather than combat). There was at least one production 2-seat version of the Mustang proposed, the TP-51C, but I believe they only built a few of them. One of the US museums has a flying one.
Check out the TP-47G for an odd one, proposed trainer version of the Thunderbolt.

Cheers
 
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