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    Recovered the water buffalo yesterday.
    The chassis plate shows it started life as an M149, then later updated to the A1 version. Still researching the differences.
    At some point, the A2 stainless steel tank was installed and that tag says 1987.
    Unknown if itís a manufactured date or installed date.

    Lots of light/medium surface rust but no heavy rust and zero rot.
    The tires of course are toast.
    Good news is it came with a NOS set of STA 10.00-20ís.
    Also included a good used set of 9.00-20 NDCC tires mounted on the rims.

    Brake system is shot, as expected
    Short of installing a new Dexter axle, Iím not sure what to do yet about brakes.
    Parking brake handles work but the cables are also toast.
    Havenít tried the tongue jack yet.

    Best part is the tank inside is spotless!
    Gasket on top hatch cover is in great shape.
    I was worried that fuel or oil might have been carried in it.
    All faucets and drain plugs are in place.
    A good Sanitizing (per the FM) and itís ready for drinking water.
    I didnít realize that the tank was insulated.


    New tires will be installed next week.
    The bulky and heavy jack will be replaced with a modern 7000 pound crank jack by Butler Jack.

    Power washing it today to get old paint and moss off.

    A few missing/damaged parts like the parking brake cables and original main drain plug will hopefully be found. It has PVC drain plug with a garden hose adapter on it now.
    Iím sure it works great but want an original plug.

    Also missing is one leaf spring roller bushing and shaft.
    Will not fill tank until itís found.

    Lots of work ahead to get it in the shape I want it in.
    I already have the 383 CARC paint.
    New taillights are ready.
    New wiring harness acquired.
    Will also install side clearance lights.

    Happy with the purchase so far.
    1987 M1008A1 (2)
    1986 M1009
    1995 NF2D FloodLight/Kohler-Kubota Generator Set
    1992 M101A2 trailer (2)
    1987 M149A2 Water Buffalo (M149A1 Chassis)
    S-280 Shelter

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    What is the difference between M149/A1/A2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kubotaman View Post
    What is the difference between M149/A1/A2?
    The tank was upgraded to stainless on A2 from the fiberglass and also the landing gear on the A2 tend to be the dual wheel adjustable.

    Some of them also have the platform for a pump.
    1984 M923 "Maj. Zippidy" who now is equipped like a M925A1
    1991 M998 HMMWV

    1990 Kasel M101A2
    1968 Case Master M101A1 with fuel tank and gen set up
    1991 Eastern Technologies M105A2
    60's ? m116a1? radar trailer flatbed
    xm1073 flat bed 7 1/2 ton


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    I power washed it today.
    Looks a lot better but forgot to take pictures.
    Will do that tomorrow.

    Great thing is with the tongue modification that was done, it sits level when hooked up to my M1008A1.
    Safety chains reach is perfect.

    She’s gonna take a bit of prep before paint.
    1987 M1008A1 (2)
    1986 M1009
    1995 NF2D FloodLight/Kohler-Kubota Generator Set
    1992 M101A2 trailer (2)
    1987 M149A2 Water Buffalo (M149A1 Chassis)
    S-280 Shelter

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    Data plate on the A2 tank.
    Not sure why someone obliterated the NSN number.
    It’s readily available online.

    The front jack works great once it was oiled and greased.
    It actually looks to be a fairly new replacement part.
    I might keep it and install a secondary jack so I can hook it up by myself.
    Two people can lift it up just fine now when it’s empty plus third person in CUCV to back up for Pintle alignment.
    Will be impossible when full.

    A trip to the local truck stop weigh scale is also on the list.
    With the mods done on it so far, I only have a ballpark estimate of how much it weighs empty.
    I already know exactly how much 400 gallons of water weighs.

    It will never go up and down the highway and only between two ranch’s less than 8 miles apart.
    All back roads and dirt roads.
    I would like it to have brakes but don’t want to install new axle.
    Surge brake assembly?
    That’s a lot of weight for a CUCV to handle.
    My dually can tow it but trailer won’t sit level.

    Ideas?
    1987 M1008A1 (2)
    1986 M1009
    1995 NF2D FloodLight/Kohler-Kubota Generator Set
    1992 M101A2 trailer (2)
    1987 M149A2 Water Buffalo (M149A1 Chassis)
    S-280 Shelter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinstar View Post
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    Data plate on the A2 tank.
    Not sure why someone obliterated the NSN number.
    It’s readily available online.

    The front jack works great once it was oiled and greased.
    It actually looks to be a fairly new replacement part.
    I might keep it and install a secondary jack so I can hook it up by myself.
    Two people can lift it up just fine now when it’s empty plus third person in CUCV to back up for Pintle alignment.
    Will be impossible when full.

    A trip to the local truck stop weigh scale is also on the list.
    With the mods done on it so far, I only have a ballpark estimate of how much it weighs empty.
    I already know exactly how much 400 gallons of water weighs.

    It will never go up and down the highway and only between two ranch’s less than 8 miles apart.
    All back roads and dirt roads.
    I would like it to have brakes but don’t want to install new axle.
    Surge brake assembly?
    That’s a lot of weight for a CUCV to handle.
    My dually can tow it but trailer won’t sit level.

    Ideas?
    You can go with a electric over hydraulic set-up.

    https://www.easternmarine.com/electr...rake-actuators

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    Excellent idea.
    They are proud of them that’s for sure.
    I will price a new Dexter axle
    Cheapest option wins.
    1987 M1008A1 (2)
    1986 M1009
    1995 NF2D FloodLight/Kohler-Kubota Generator Set
    1992 M101A2 trailer (2)
    1987 M149A2 Water Buffalo (M149A1 Chassis)
    S-280 Shelter

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    Going this route.
    https://www.crofttrailer.com/da91bz-...ty-model-da91/
    Or
    https://www.crofttrailer.com/da1002b...ty-model-da10/

    The #8000 Model should work just fine.
    Even fully loaded the trailer will not weigh that much.
    1987 M1008A1 (2)
    1986 M1009
    1995 NF2D FloodLight/Kohler-Kubota Generator Set
    1992 M101A2 trailer (2)
    1987 M149A2 Water Buffalo (M149A1 Chassis)
    S-280 Shelter

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    She cleaned up decent.
    Sprayed it down with Ospho Rust Inhibitor today.
    NOS military trailer electric cord ordered.
    NOS parking brake cables ordered.

    It looks a lot rougher than it feels.
    Power washing did wonders.

    Will feel much better once it’s painted.
    1987 M1008A1 (2)
    1986 M1009
    1995 NF2D FloodLight/Kohler-Kubota Generator Set
    1992 M101A2 trailer (2)
    1987 M149A2 Water Buffalo (M149A1 Chassis)
    S-280 Shelter

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    Maybe the pic is distorted with the ground level, but the lunette looks twisted?
    1984 M923 "Maj. Zippidy" who now is equipped like a M925A1
    1991 M998 HMMWV

    1990 Kasel M101A2
    1968 Case Master M101A1 with fuel tank and gen set up
    1991 Eastern Technologies M105A2
    60's ? m116a1? radar trailer flatbed
    xm1073 flat bed 7 1/2 ton


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