View Poll Results: Which is better an M35A2 or M35A3

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Thread: Buying a M35A2 or M35A3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mooresM35A2 View Post
    the A3 is powered by the Caterpillar 3116, it has more power than the multi fuels. however it was one of the worst engines CAT ever made, and like wreckerman said anything painted yellow will cost $$$ to get fixed, i can testify to that because im interning at a CAT dealer
    It may not be the best engine CAT ever built but it is plenty good for our use. They were in fire trucks, boats, school buses and so on. There are lots of great testimonials on the internet if you search...

    The 97 GMC C6500 I drive has the 3116 CAT in it the Engine has 383xxx miles on it Very strong to this day.. We had a 3126 in our 94 that we never had a problem with we sold that truck at 395xxx and it is still running strong for a new company south of us... Our 3116 is at 170HP I do believe and the 3126 was 190HP We have a 2000 GMC 6500 with the 3126 in it but I'm not sure of its HP I think around 190HP also that unit has 138xxx on it so far... they have all been great trucks..
    I can quote many other such experiences found by searching Cat 3116 mileage

    Now, our A3 trucks probably are not going to see even 100,000 miles, but to slam the engine when the multifuels have their problems too, well that is overstepping a little bit I think.

    Also I keep seeing references to the 3116 being electronic. It is not.

    Facts are more useful than claims. And both models are great.

    There were less than 6000 made, so if someone on here would buy them all they can corner the A3 market! Seriously though, if less than 6000 were made, many may be sold overseas, others may be scrapped, and so on, well these things will get scarce fast IMO.

    Its all good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AceHigh View Post
    It may not be the best engine CAT ever built but it is plenty good for our use. They were in fire trucks, boats, school buses and so on. There are lots of great testimonials on the internet if you search...



    I can quote many other such experiences found by searching Cat 3116 mileage

    Now, our A3 trucks probably are not going to see even 100,000 miles, but to slam the engine when the multifuels have their problems too, well that is overstepping a little bit I think.

    Also I keep seeing references to the 3116 being electronic. It is not.

    Facts are more useful than claims. And both models are great.

    There were less than 6000 made, so if someone on here would buy them all they can corner the A3 market! Seriously though, if less than 6000 were made, many may be sold overseas, others may be scrapped, and so on, well these things will get scarce fast IMO.

    Its all good.
    I started this poll and got some great feedback finally pulled the tiger and bought an A3
    Thanks for all your help.
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    i think you made the right call - looks great!!!
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    listen to the voice in your head and buy BOTH

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    I have one of each, a 1969 Kaiser Jeep W/W and a 1998 A3 W/W. They are different vehicles. I prefer the A2, because it has a manual transmission, is multifuel and much easier to start. Parts are also much more common. I also drove A1s and A2s in the Army years ago so I'have a history with them. However, I also love my A3
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    I have driven both on long trips, the A3 is comfortable but drives like a bus. The A2 is
    more responsive, I have an air ride seat which makes all the differance. Also, off road climbing a hill there is no comparison. The A2 will climb all day the A3 doesn't come close.

    Buy the A2, put Firestone T831's or singles on it. Save yourself the expense of the Cat motor. You can buy a rebuilt multi for far less then a Cat motor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bratpackdad View Post
    I have driven both on long trips, the A3 is comfortable but drives like a bus. The A2 is
    more responsive, I have an air ride seat which makes all the differance. Also, off road climbing a hill there is no comparison. The A2 will climb all day the A3 doesn't come close.

    Buy the A2, put Firestone T831's or singles on it. Save yourself the expense of the Cat motor. You can buy a rebuilt multi for far less then a Cat motor.
    OK, what's wrong with a bus. I drove a stock A2 and it needed everything tires seats paint no power steering probably needs new wiring harness brakes master cylinder and on and on. I restored a M37 and a M151 and I know what is involved to get it right. The government already went completely over the A3, everything is either new or rebuilt.
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    Nothing is wrong with a bus. If that's your interest, but I can't
    drive a Blue Bird or Prevost offroad. So enjoy your under powered
    over priced A3.

    As far as work on the A2? Anything 40+ years old is going to need work.
    That's half the reason to buy one. If you want new go buy an Oshkosh FMTV.
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    under powered? my A3 blows the doors off my A2, they are slower on the top end, If i bought an A2 and singled it out, it would be the same price that i paid for my A3. Its been said before, let me say it again, the A2 and A3 are cousins but very different, both have pros and cons. I would like to encourage everyone once again that if they can afford to buy an A3 now, do it. There are about 5k in the country (my guess) and will be liquidated soon.
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    Drives like a bus ?? Would that be a standard bus or the short bus ?

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