Front mounted spare and dumping

[Nick]

I have mounted the spare tire carrier Chris Case made for me mentioned in another thread. But now my M101 wont dump. I can tilt it by hand without the tire, brakes locked or not. But as soon as the tire is on, it wont tilt, brakes locked.

I know a Budd rim and NDT are heavy, but is it enough to not allow it to tilt? Does anyone else have a front mount that can still tilt.

What am I missing??

Nick

 

[KsM715]

Do you mean if you take the tire off the mount it will dump? or do you mean it would dump before you mounted the holder and spare tire? If I remember the pics I saw, the mount is bolted to both the box and the frame. Lets see some pics so we know what your working with.

 

[Nick]

It will dump with the mount in place, it only bolts to the box, and the box frame. There is a plate that bolts to the a-frame to support the tire, but it doesnt bolt to the bracket. So i noticed that the plate on the a-frame was hitting the electric junction box, and I notched it out. But. it still wont lift with the tire on it.

I canlift it without the tire, by hand, but cant lift it with the tire on. Are these really that balanced?

 

[KsM715]

Might be. Can you lock the brakes and back up and force it to dump? (use a spotter just in case so you dont bend something)

 

[Nick]

I tried it with the brakes locked backing up while hooked to my truck, all it did was roll the tires. And the brakes are locked big time. As soon as I took the tire off, it tilted just fine. So Im guessing no dumping with the tire in place.

Guess its no big deal, dont plan to hafta use the dump alot, just kinda neat to say it can do it if i NEED to.

Nick

 

[FireFighterHill]

The tire is not interfering with any of the release mechanisms for the dump?

 

[Nick]

nope, the tire is clear of everything

 

[KsM715]

Hmmm thats strange. I dont have a M101 but I have heard of guys dumping loads of dirt/gravel/split wood by locking the wheels and backing up. Those loads have to weigh more than the spare tire. if you have another spare tire/wheel combo (or something of similar weight) try hanging the spare on and putting the weight in the back end of the trailer (counter balance) and try backing and dumping. Just be ready if your weight falls out and the spare tire wants to slam the box back down.

 

[Nick]

Good idea, didnt think of that.

Im on duty now, itll hafta wait til thursday

thanks
nick

 

[KsM715]

Did you figure it out?

 

[Nick]

Not yet, havent had a chance to get it outta the garage. Gonna try it Thursday when I get off duty, supposed to be a nice day.

I'll let ya know.

Thanks
Nick