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Fuel Issue

Jon0249

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Recent troubles with my 1990 M998-A0 (6.5NA) that I would appreciate advice on.

This summer, it ran fine here in the Texas heat. From the time I brought it home in March 2015, it had always started almost instantly. However, late this summer the crank to start time started going from near instantaneous to 3-5 seconds, to 8-10 seconds, occasionally even longer. I figured it was time to replace the fuel filter and water separator. So I did. Nothing really changed, with start times continuing to be 10+ seconds on cold start. Once started, it would restart immediately the rest of the day.

As the weather cooled, starting took even longer. Most recently, after a tough start, I was pulling a trailer up a long hill and the engine just died. I slipped it into N and it restarted on the fly without even stopping. That happened again, after I had floored the accelerator in a defensive driving maneuver. It also restarted on the fly before I came to a stop. A few days later, with cooler nights and days, it failed to start altogether and has sat for a couple weeks since.

My assessment:

A. With the cooler temps, the glow plugs became a necessity, and their failure caused the starting issues. That was confirmed today when I took #3 out and it was burnt. #2 is stuck, as are a few others I'm afraid. However, I just replaced them this past spring, so the reason they failed is the real mystery.

B. Fuel - I'm guessing the block mounted fuel pump has been going bad for a while and with cooler temps the diaphragm just couldn't handle it and cracked.

All other indicators are normal. GP light comes on for 6-10 seconds as it should. I installed a grounding cable in the spring, so electrically, it's sound. No other issues that come to mind.

Thoughts? Why did I burn the brand new glow plugs? Regarding the fuel, is it possible there is enough air in the system that would cause this kind of problem? I bled the fuel filter canister top bleed screw, so I have discounted that as a factor, but maybe I missed something? Cranking it today, with the bleed screw loose, fuel escaped there, as well as the petcock drain.

Thanks in advance for your expertise!

Jon
 

Retiredwarhorses

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Notorious for buring out GP's....Per AM general, the only "Authorized" box is the S3 smart start from KDS, not from Narton, but KDS. I asked AMG nartron, they said those are not installed into production trucks, only the KDS S3.
go figure....I've personally never had a bad KDS S3, but I have had out of box failures on brand new Nartron S3's.
 

Jon0249

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Ok, appreciate the info on the box. Still puzzled about the fuel issues - does what I described sound like the fuel pump needs replacing?
 
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