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Gunner's opening in hard tops

jimm1009

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Does anyone have the dimensions on the opening cut in the roof for the gunner to operate his weapon thru when mounted on the Ring Mount? (It is approximately 2 feet according to pictures)
I need to make a Steel Closure or Patch Panel and need the thickness of the top material and the approximate size.
I plan on making it 3/4 inch oversize and then use a English Wheel to roll a joggle or sometimes called a flange around the outside. I will then use steel flush (countersunk) rivets or possible bond it in place using aviation grade adhesive.
(Welding will probably distort the top and make waves in the surface)
I have been looking for the MWO for the ring mount installation to get the size of the hole but it probably one of those that is restricted to us no-longer-in-the-military- guys.
Thanks in advance,
Jim
jimm1009@yahoo.com
 

wreckerman893

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I had a deuce with a "redneck gun turret" on it. A hole had been cut in the hardtop and a cutoff 55 gallon drum had been affixed to it. The drum had a removable locking ring.
It was used for convoy ops training by the SC Nat Guard.
It leaked like a sieve but looked pretty cool.
We took it to a machine gun shoot and fired out of it.
Looked awesome.
I'll post some pics if I can find them.
 

wreckerman893

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Never found the pics.....but it was a pretty cool design...it had just been cobbled together too fast. With a little imagination and some good welding it could have been a very good setup.
SInce I want to put my ring mount on my wrecker, and I hate soft tops, I will probably "redneck engineer" a removable hatch. I am more concerned with function than beauty.
 

Maverick1701

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Never found the pics.....but it was a pretty cool design...it had just been cobbled together too fast. With a little imagination and some good welding it could have been a very good setup.
SInce I want to put my ring mount on my wrecker, and I hate soft tops, I will probably "redneck engineer" a removable hatch. I am more concerned with function than beauty.

you mean like a hatch to open/close? because that would look pretty badass.....
 

wreckerman893

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you mean like a hatch to open/close? because that would look pretty badass.....
I am thinking more in terms of a removable lid that can be kept sealed up unless you need to man the weapon. A hatch that would open and close on a hinge would prob be difficult to manuver under the ring mount and would be in the way unless it would lay flat.
Any creative folks out there got ideas?
 

WillWagner

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At the Fontana scrap yard, there a quite a few aluminum covers for the HEMTT cab with the M66 ring mount. I can pick one up tomorrow and send a pic if you like.
 

saddamsnightmare

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August 8th, 2009.

Dear Will:

Grab one of the HEMTT covers if you must, but I would suggest making the cover with a hinge (piano type) across from left to right on the center line, you'll have to work a seal out for it, but it should hinge or flip under while the main back panel flips over onto a rest at the rear of the hatch, that way you would clear the .50 or whatever's mounted when your co-driver chooses to open the hatch. The folded cover would be completely out of the way of the ring mount. In California you want a ring mount???? Who do you think you are...... The Groppenfuerher?:twisted: Just ask Ahhnold if you can borrow his M60 tank, solves the whole problem of portable weapons all at once! Chances are you just wanta take the Bunnies for a cruise and you're gonna tell them your SUV has a sun roof!

Cheers,
Kyle F. McGrogan:twisted:


N.B. Will, I got an old deuce mechanic that will change my rear main seal on the M35A2 for about $450.... given that I have no shop nor inclination (due to a recovering shoulder after surgery) to wrestle the beast, is it a fair deal for a diesel mechanic?
 

yeager1

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I have an original turret top and thought of doing a hinge as you suggested, but then relized I could no longer drive with it open (which is nice but loud!) so I'm doing a standard diamond plate cover. Here's an inside pic.
 
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