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1990 M998, when the head lights are on I have no tail lights and I lose the left turn signal only (the right works), brake lights work side markers work.
I've replaced the light switch with new (never used) switch, installed Kascar grounding kit.
Where should I be looking next?
Ive also noticed my generator meter jumps from bottom to green for the first couple minutes after startup then settles in the green.
 
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Check all your grounds, check the turn signal switch connections, etc.

Edit: I forgot to add, my 1988 had similar problems, in my case all but one item was a corroded ground at the light. The remaining case was a lose wire under the dash near the turn signal switch. Just plugged the connector in tighter and the issue went away.
 
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To start off, the bouncing voltage needle is normal as long as it goes away after a minute or two. These have an "afterglow" function that pulses power to the glow plugs to help things warm up faster, without burning up the glow plugs.
Some versions of the control box use the pulse, others use a reduced voltage. Both accomplish the same thing.

As for lights, I'll agree with mgFray; it sounds like you probably have some bad connections in your wiring.
Start out at the light assemblies and test for voltage, and then work your way back to the switch area.
 

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Did you check the dim bulbs? Or their sockets for voltage?
There are 2 bolts holding each lamp to the truck or hood. Replace those bolts with new ones and completely clean the ground wire loop and the metal plates between each pair of bolts.
 

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I think it was the weather :unsure: :oops:.......Differently a problem. Not the first time either. Get some new ground return / bridging straps too. Maybe some male packard connectors for the body harness. On plastic buckets one of the bolts is the ground. Strap in place makes it easy. No worries on the metal housings ? Next take a peek at the side markers. Bet there're all buggered up to. Rust buckets. How much water poured out?

Not much help. Stick with it (y) , GOOD LUCK. CAMO
 
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I think on the new ones I'll go with brass bolts and fab up a copper grounding strap
Might be a bad idea unless you have special dielectric grease meant for Aluminum wires used in the 1970's. You might corrode like a mother.

Use stainless steel or Zinc plated steel.

IMHO YMMV

Edit - In the 1970’s they used Aluminum wires. They needed to couple them with Copper at the outlets. Corrosion would set in UNLESS special dielectric grease was used where Copper met Aluminum. Brass contains Copper and our vehicle bodies are Aluminum.
 
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Ive also noticed my generator meter jumps from bottom to green for the first couple minutes after startup then settles in the green.
This is an easy answer and not bad news: That's the glow plug cycle. Intended and expected from a diesel. (I asked about it too, shortly after I got my 998 running.)
Welcome to the club!
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Might be a bad idea unless you have special dielectric grease meant for Aluminum wires used in the 1970's. You might corrode like a mother.

Use stainless steel or Zinc plated steel.

IMHO YMMV

Edit - In the 1970’s they used Aluminum wires. They needed to couple them with Copper at the outlets. Corrosion would set in UNLESS special dielectric grease was used where Copper met Aluminum. Brass contains Copper and our vehicle bodies are Aluminum.
Not sure why this would be a problem, brass and copper are compatible and the lights bolt up to plastic not aluminum, (the rear light buckets are plastic) the threaded inserts in the lights are probably brass also.
As I have said before nothing grounds through the aluminum body.
 

TOBASH

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Not sure why this would be a problem, brass and copper are compatible and the lights bolt up to plastic not aluminum, (the rear light buckets are plastic) the threaded inserts in the lights are probably brass also.
As I have said before nothing grounds through the aluminum body.
It’s the brass on the Aluminum and brass on steel my friend… not the brass on Copper that concerns me. LOL
 

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It’s the brass on the Aluminum and brass on steel my friend… not the brass on Copper that concerns me. LOL
Where is the brass on aluminum or steel? the lights bolt to plastic, not aluminum or steel.
EDIT, the light buckets that are riveted to the body are made of plastic.
 
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TOBASH

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The rear light cup might be plastic BUT where the screws attach the wiring is Copper and the grounding strap and light sockets are galvanized steel. The light buckets attach to the Aluminum body.

You’re an amazing guy who created a duravee, so not looking to go toe to toe. You can PM me and we can have a friendly talk outside this thread my respected friend. Make no mistake, I hold you in high regard.

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