Nostalgic Air Brackets and Turbo

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Hi,

Has anyone installed the Nostalgic Air A/C compressor brackets along with a 6.5 turbo swap? I have parts from a 6.5 TD in storage to install in the future, but they are out of state so I can't measure anything. I am in the middle of an A/C swap and am trying to decide between the Nostalgic Air bracket kit which locates the compressor on the passenger side below the 24v alternator, and a custom bracket setup that will locate it below the driver side alternator.

I am worried if I do the Nostalgic Air kit then the compressor might interfere with the turbo and/or downpipe. The custom bracket on the driver side will definitely work, but it will be a lot of effort and will probably require me to reroute the hard lines to the brake master cylinder.

Has anyone successfully done an AC install on a truck with a turbo and both alternators? If so, where did you mount the compressor? Most threads I have found start off with a 12v conversion, which I am not interested in.
 

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Hi,

Has anyone installed the Nostalgic Air A/C compressor brackets along with a 6.5 turbo swap? I have parts from a 6.5 TD in storage to install in the future, but they are out of state so I can't measure anything. I am in the middle of an A/C swap and am trying to decide between the Nostalgic Air bracket kit which locates the compressor on the passenger side below the 24v alternator, and a custom bracket setup that will locate it below the driver side alternator.

I am worried if I do the Nostalgic Air kit then the compressor might interfere with the turbo and/or downpipe. The custom bracket on the driver side will definitely work, but it will be a lot of effort and will probably require me to reroute the hard lines to the brake master cylinder.

Has anyone successfully done an AC install on a truck with a turbo and both alternators? If so, where did you mount the compressor? Most threads I have found start off with a 12v conversion, which I am not interested in.
The 200 amp setup has both alternators on the drivers side...I found that looking through the tm on the truck scouring for part numbers!!...you can see how the mounts work from that setup and then put the compressor on the drivers side by itself...I have no idea if the alts will interfere with the exhaust setup in the 6.5...sounds like something I'd like to do myself but I'll keep the 6.2l....I can try and find that page again that shows the different alternator locations...they are much bigger alternators though so I'd bet a big one some serious fab will need to be done to get the standard alts to fit in the brackets plus some custom made hoses for the ac as well but I think most of those kits have hoses you make yourself...the crank pulley for that setup is also a 4 rib and not a 3 like the 100 amp setup...I would not hook the belt to the small drive belt on the power steering pulley but the one that goes to the drivers side alternator...you don't want to lose the power steering pump ever!! brakes are important. Which cucv do you have?
 

WWRD99

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Hi,

Has anyone installed the Nostalgic Air A/C compressor brackets along with a 6.5 turbo swap? I have parts from a 6.5 TD in storage to install in the future, but they are out of state so I can't measure anything. I am in the middle of an A/C swap and am trying to decide between the Nostalgic Air bracket kit which locates the compressor on the passenger side below the 24v alternator, and a custom bracket setup that will locate it below the driver side alternator.

I am worried if I do the Nostalgic Air kit then the compressor might interfere with the turbo and/or downpipe. The custom bracket on the driver side will definitely work, but it will be a lot of effort and will probably require me to reroute the hard lines to the brake master cylinder.

Has anyone successfully done an AC install on a truck with a turbo and both alternators? If so, where did you mount the compressor? Most threads I have found start off with a 12v conversion, which I am not interested in.
Found it...page 309 in the parts and illustration catalog...it shows all the part numbers you need to put the alts on the passenger side...if you can find them...finding gm brackets to fit the compressor on the passenger side should be able to be found or just make some...use the lower alt bracket and go from there...I am writing this assuming you can make stuff plus some wiring...because I don't see how you won't have to...the ac install is very simple once you can make everything mount up though...sounds like a winter project for me and my truck!!20211019_104451.jpg
 

WWRD99

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Hi,

Has anyone installed the Nostalgic Air A/C compressor brackets along with a 6.5 turbo swap? I have parts from a 6.5 TD in storage to install in the future, but they are out of state so I can't measure anything. I am in the middle of an A/C swap and am trying to decide between the Nostalgic Air bracket kit which locates the compressor on the passenger side below the 24v alternator, and a custom bracket setup that will locate it below the driver side alternator.

I am worried if I do the Nostalgic Air kit then the compressor might interfere with the turbo and/or downpipe. The custom bracket on the driver side will definitely work, but it will be a lot of effort and will probably require me to reroute the hard lines to the brake master cylinder.

Has anyone successfully done an AC install on a truck with a turbo and both alternators? If so, where did you mount the compressor? Most threads I have found start off with a 12v conversion, which I am not interested in.
Found one more pic on page 301 that shows the ac compressor on the drivers side...one note as well they have different power steering and water pump pulleys to do the 2 belt drive to the ac compressor...I am not sure how that would work since I know the compressor you'd get from Nostalgia will not a an old r12 a4 compressor so that will be a challenge as to what pulley it comes with as well as the speed at which it needs to turn to make the right pressures...pulley size for the compressor is what I am getting at...I think you could get away with the 4 groove pulley on the crank and run a single to the compressor as the old ones took a lot more to turn vs the new ones...I'd also look into a slosh type compressor, if they have one, as it will have less drag and need less belt tensioning when in use...they would be more expensive and take more computer to get that to work but would be worth it...I can think of about 20 cars I'd pull one from if I could get a controller to work it...yes I am planning this in my head right now.20211019_110437.jpg
 

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I doubt the turbo will be happy with the big honking J180 mount alternators. Thats the M1010 setup. Thats the best way to get AC whether 12 or 24v.

This is opinion but I would go 12v and use the 6.5 setup. It works with the turbo. The alternator is a newer style, yiu get a Sanden style compressor, and serpentine is definitely an upgrade.

But if you want to stay 24v you would need a 144 style 24v alternator which I'm sure is not easy to find. Plus you would need a DC to DC converter for the 12v stuff.

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I have the Nostalgia Air compressor mount on one of my trucks. I have a few GM turbo set ups to look at as well. I don’t see the trouble with putting the Nostalgia air compressor on a truck with a GM turbo. After all, GM put a Sanden type compressor on the turbo side of the engine after 1998 or so. It was up high in the cluttered area where a CUCV alternator lives. Not down low in the wide open area around the fuel pump like the Nostalgia mount. I don’t see how it would work with a Banks Sidewinder though.
 

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I was thinking of the Sidewinder. The factory turbo manifold puts the turbo more in the middle of the cylinder head right?

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Barrman

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Factory is more in the middle and up high. Attached is a picture of my serpentine belt Sanden compressor mounted where the CUCV alternator would be with the Banks turbo visible below it and away from the engine some. I had a belt driven vacuum pump there for a while with no clearance issues. I will try to find a picture of how far out the Nostalgia air brackets put the compressor too.17-05-20.CDK20.Engine.JPG

Here is a really tight shot of the Nostalgia air mount waaaay outside of the CUCV alternator and beyond the lower radiator hose on my M1009. Basically, I don't think a Banks turbo and a Nostalga air compressor can go on the same truck:

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First of all, Nostalgic purchases the brackets for the A/C compressor from a small mom & pop machine shop in Ft. Worth Texas. I explained all this in post #301 in my rebuild thread https://www.steelsoldiers.com/threads/kinda-got-carried-away-m1028-rebuild.54469/post-2224882 . The other choice for A/C in a CUCV is Vintage Air. There are several differences between the Nostalgic and Vintage kits. The Nostalgic kit adds A/C to the existing heater/defroster system, however the Vintage kit completely replaces the OEM heater/defroster system. For my M1028 rebuild, I purchased the compressor brackets from the Ft. Worth machine shop and then purchased the Vintage kit from Summit.

Hope this helps.


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