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Paintless Pinstriping Pictures

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This thread is only for those of us who offroad.

No parade duty. No trailer queens. No picture perfect paint jobs. No poser shots.

Just naturally paintless pinstriped rigs.

I’ll get her started with the new scratches to my purpose built Aluminum doors. They are built to get abused by branches. Love the look!!!

After rebuilding and turning two bad half shafts into one rebuilt unit, Eric Hummer H1 and I took a little trip offroad. He took his 300,000 mile HMMWV, and I took the M1165. Even collected a half ton of rocks for decorating his driveway and threw them in back of his rig. His springs didn’t even notice the load.

Also includes a few picks of the herd of wild HMMWV,s and Hummers and an LA sunset. (And yes, That formerly mint H2 is way pinstriped so I included her in the pics) IMG_8864.jpegIMG_8859.jpegIMG_8861.jpeg

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HUMMER H1 said:
Is that a spacer you have on the front coils?
Can you please tell us what kind of winch are you using to fit the OEM front mount.

love the pictures of the two door in action ❤
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No spacers on any of my springs. My M1123 had the MAK upgraded suspension, so springs are a bit heavier than stock (3000 lbs per inch compression in the front as opposed to the stock 1200 lbs per inch compression...)

As for the winch, it's a Milemarker SEC 12 24V winch. Honestly though, this winch is kind of a piece of crap. Cost $900 from milemarker and definitely is NOT water resistant. Of course part of the issue is because I don't use it enough, so it doesn't get hot enough to burn off any moisture that collects inside of it, so the brush holder rusts up solid every year or two and fails after about 10-15 feet of pulling. Works fine until I try to load it...

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Coug said:
No spacers on any of my springs. My M1123 had the MAK upgraded suspension, so springs are a bit heavier than stock (3000 lbs per inch compression in the front as opposed to the stock 1200 lbs per inch compression...)

As for the winch, it's a Milemarker SEC 12 24V winch. Honestly though, this winch is kind of a piece of crap. Cost $900 from milemarker and definitely is NOT water resistant. Of course part of the issue is because I don't use it enough, so it doesn't get hot enough to burn off any moisture that collects inside of it, so the brush holder rusts up solid every year or two and fails after about 10-15 feet of pulling. Works fine until I try to load it...

Thread discussing the install.
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the front springs on your M1123 for sure are not the 3000 lb rate. Maybe snow plow 1720?
As far the stock springs M1123 only came with 954 up front.

I am looking at the picture, what’s that round thing over the front coils?
Looks like added something,


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So double checked the manual, and you are correct that all A0-A2 trucks apparently come with the 954lb rated springs in front.

I found a spring part number tag on the ground under the truck one day. I can't remember if I found a tag on the other spring or not that matched it. That was about 6 years ago and don't remember the part number on the tag or what I did with it. I just remember when I looked it up it was for a 3k rated spring for the M1114 up armored truck. Can't verify if it was rear or front part number, but could swear it was front. It was definitely a 3k rated spring part number though.

Just went out and took a close up picture.
Also measured them; coil diameter is 1.125"
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The 1.125" coil diameter matches the RCSK18428-2 specs (1.127"), and that is a 3k spring rate. However, that is a rear spring with a longer length.

Looking through the charts I can't find anything that matches that diameter for the front, so perhaps they just have an extra layer of paint on them and are just the 2k rated springs (1.088" diameter?)

Either way, this truck did get the Marine Armor Kit installed, and heavier springs installed, and I have not changed them.


EDIT: and to add, at no point have I ever seen any type of colored tag on any of the springs.

second edit: Found where I might have become confused. A post by a reputable member here almost a decade ago had the data for the RCSK18428-1 spring, which has an alternate part number of 12338316-6 which I do believe is the part number from the tag, listed it as a 3k spring rate. I think it might have been a cut and paste error from the flash offroad spring rate list.

What was on the old post:
Years - 1998-1999
P/N - RCSK18428-1
Tie Wrap - N/A
Spring Rate - 3000
Coil Diameter - 1.088
Usage - X-Heavy Duty 12,100 & Heavy Duty Fire Truck Option 12,100

Lift questions

My m1038 has 40 inch mud tires that are rubbing when I'm off road. I have plenty of clearance on rear so I only want to lift front 2 inches. I've read some people advise against suspension lift. Would body lift be better? Is so do I make one or buy from company? Should I just cut fender...
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Parttarget shows a 2k spring deflection rate and max load of over 6500 lbs, and I did find one post where I mentioed a 6k rated spring in my truck, which matches the max load rate.

5360-01-457-8029, 5360014578029, 12338316-6, RCSK18428-1, RCSK18428-1B1 Data. Get Quote & Buy

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What you have there is either snow plow springs 1720 lb rate
Or up armor 2050 rate

They have less coils than 954 but are thicker.

that’s why your truck has a beautiful stance level looks.
954 dont give trucks balance look
 
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HUMMER H1 said:
What you have there is either snow plow springs 1720 lb rate
Or up armor 2050 rate

They have less coils than 954 but are thicker.

that’s why your truck has a beautiful stance level looks.
954 dont give trucks balance look
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I'd think the up armored 2050 rate is most likely.

I definitely like the nice, level look.

Fortunately I'm still young enough that I don't terribly mind it feeling every single bump and dip in the road.

Not only does it look level, on the road it corners at high speed like it's on rails. A few people mentioned they couldn't believe just how fast I was taking some corners.


The rear does mellow out a bit when I put the BEOD in it (with gear gross weight 9500 lbs) Even then there isn't a huge amount of sag though.
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Haha you beat me on the cornering statement.
I can’t say enough how much I love the handling of my truck with heavy duty front springs, no joke it’s like a sports car.

from the hight I see on the last picture you posted, it’s clear it has 2050 up armor front springs.

beautiful truck.
 
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If you actually use aluminum rims that cornering performance becomes even more impressive
Because rotational mass decreases

my girlfriend drove my humvee and she was saying the handling is absolutely lovely.

i currently have Aluminum Cepek H1 rims 16.5
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