Starter issues m1009

[Jonas]

So, i got the OK to drive the truck from the testing place now in sweden, yay!

ofcourse more problems appear...

The starter has always worked porfect while it was in the garage, always cranked the engine.

Now, when the truck has been running some the starter solenoid wont engage some times.. I can drive it for 15 minutes, turn it off and then to restart it in 5 minutes and the starter is completley dead. i can try to start it 20 times and nothing, then on the 21st time it starts.

Ive been reading up on the delco starters and people seems to be experiencing alot of problems with hot starters not being able to move the solenoid.

I found this site,

Chevrolet No Start Fix - Chevy High Performance

anyone ever had to modify their starter like that to avoid it from not engaging when hot?
Maybe i can manifacture a heatshield around it...
or is my starter slowly dieing on me and should be replaced ?

pain in the butt to just sit in the truck waiting for some time to pass trying to start the truck just hearing clicks from a 2nd solenoid i have in the engine bay.

starter has brand new cables and volts was about 24.5 Volts on the main power connector to the starter.

Thank you all for great reading
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[mistaken1]

24.5v seems a little low. Have you load tested the batteries?

 

[Jonas]

24.5v seems a little low. Have you load tested the batteries?

They were 24.8 today, no load testing has been done but those are brand new heavy duty batteries

And if the batteries were weak, that still wouldnt make these issues i think ?

Since its, Noting or All when it comes to the starting..

 

[SGT Estum]

I recently had a little starter issue. Granted, it sounds like a somewhat different issue but I think they may share a common "solution".

When I went to crank the engine, the starter gave off this terrible sound like something out of a horror movie and the engine did not turn over. So I crawled under the truck and gave it a little love with a 5 pound rubber mallet. Got back in the cab and she started right up.

 

[markinnh]

true enough the ground is through the body of the starter, if the mounting flange is totally crudded up, clean it and make sure its bolted in place well. On my CUCV, there is a solenoid that sends 24v to the solenoid on the starter, (a 12 volt coil solenoid from the ign switch that sends 24 volts to the solenoid on the starter. See a post on here called "the Doghead fix" or something like that. If the solenoid Doghead refers to is failing to switch the solenoid on, then it stands to reason that it may stick on and cause lots of issues, Beware!

 

[Jonas]

my setup is the same, as the starter relay under the dash has been bypassed with a new solenoid in the engine area.

The whole body of the starter should be ground right?

Maybe i can run a cable from (-) on the bat down to the starter to make sure its not a grounding issue... I dont think it is tho.. I still think its the heat problem.

I had the truck parked for 2 hours now, fired right up no hesetation.

spraying water on a hot starter is a no-no i guess ?

Those "hot-start-fixes" only seems to bridge the solenoid connector to the the battery connector? "s" and "bat"

 

[Jonas]

sigh, blocked the road for 30 minutes today...

Should the starter always have power?
Is it possible just to supply voltage to the starter when its going to start... i guess having 24volts in it all the time creates some heat itself...

 

[Apoc Bane]

I think you should replace the starter then proceed.

Starter Military Equipment CUCV 6.2 Diesel 24 Volt 28MT: eBay Motors (item 290366555566 end time Jul-31-10 21:48:39 PDT)

 

[Jonas]

I think you should replace the starter then proceed.

Starter Military Equipment CUCV 6.2 Diesel 24 Volt 28MT: eBay Motors (item 290366555566 end time Jul-31-10 21:48:39 PDT)

Okay... Il see if i can find one in Sweden. Shipping from the us gonna be massive on that one..

 

[southdave]

Some John deere tractors and CAT use that same starter 28 MT john deer here quted me 150 bucks for a new one last year

 

[Jonas]

Looking at the tms i cant find out if the starters solenoid should be feed with 12v or 24 ?

not the Battery connection, just the sol...