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You 100% correct....all I had to do was machine approx..150 -.200 off and it works perfectly. As the other thread stated..." If you treat it right it will take care of you and treat you right"...very well put..!! Yes, I bought my 44k tow kit from the guy in Wisconsin...as far as I'm concerned...

Camoyj7, You are 100% correct...these type of ends denote a heavy duty steel bumper, not the Aluminum type...in fact I think that I've only seen 1 Aluminum bumper in my whole life...not very common. In my opinion the H/D style in picture #1 is the only bumper to use...overbuilt to the MAX...

Warhorse, thank you for the correction on the 4L80E swap for Joe...if you've never done the conversion..it will not be as easy as "1,2,3"...however, after the first one is done successfully you will feel like you can do anything on the HMMWV...I think a lot of the other folks would agree...

If you are going with the 4L80E trans, which is the only 4spd overdrive trans for the HMMWV.....You will require the stand-alone computer brain box. This replaces your conventional computer in your POV. Very simple plug and play set up...doesn't get any easier then that my friend. You will also...

Did not mean to come across sounding like I was shouting....I was merely making a point because I consider that to be an extremely important safety issues especially for the person who may be behind That HMMWV or 5 ton with no brake lights on...As you can imagine the outcome would not be very...

Also ONE VERY IMPORTANT ITEM TO REMEMBER....IS UNLESS ACTIVATED ON MASTER LIGHT PANEL...YOU WILL HAVE NO BRAKE LIGHTS EITHER...FOUND OUT THE HARD WAYS A FEW YEARS AGO...AND I STILL FORGET TO TURN ON SOMETIMES TO THIS DAY...JUST ALITTLE FOOD FOR THOUGHT SO YOUR BRAIN DONT STARVE..!!!...lol...