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I just went and looked at a deuce that is for sale near me and it was sitting on 10 12.50R20 Michelin XL's.
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Nice tires! According to spec sheet, they should be mounted on 11 inch rims. Wonder if there is a compromise here.
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Make that eleven, it has a spare too boot 
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Those look a little bulged past the rims. Bet they handle poorly on the narrower rims. But the worst problem is the duels are to close. I bet they chafe, good way to cause a blowout!!
Other than that, they do look good. Maybe better if used as super singles!!
Other than that, they do look good. Maybe better if used as super singles!!
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The tires fit better than I would have expected! The bulge is not as noticeable with that tread design. I would imagine a street tread would look a little worse.
If you ran 60-70 psi., you would be able to run these as singles and be OK. We always wanted 2" between the duals to keep the tires from chafing. In Fla. we were always cleaning those big longleaf pine cones from between the tires on the back. They will wedge in there, and eventually wear through the sidewalls. I think we would have run singles back then if they had been available, and if we hadn't been so cheap.
Was that the truck S of Cleveland? What did the rest of it look like?
If you ran 60-70 psi., you would be able to run these as singles and be OK. We always wanted 2" between the duals to keep the tires from chafing. In Fla. we were always cleaning those big longleaf pine cones from between the tires on the back. They will wedge in there, and eventually wear through the sidewalls. I think we would have run singles back then if they had been available, and if we hadn't been so cheap.
Was that the truck S of Cleveland? What did the rest of it look like?
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Bjorn, maybe a good tire type for your truck?
Last time I was at Bergs, there were plenty of those tires in the warehouse.
We really need to make a road trip up there......
BFR, 73M819, Clinto, Joe Schaeffer....... up to it?
Last time I was at Bergs, there were plenty of those tires in the warehouse.
We really need to make a road trip up there......
BFR, 73M819, Clinto, Joe Schaeffer....... up to it?
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I saw it today up close but didn't take any pics.
10K miles, 1700 hrs, heater, west coast mirrors, Michelin
12.50 radials (all 10), c or d turbo, looked like a new radiator (or recored),
airshift, spring ride seat. No canvas, troop seats or racks. vinyl roof. Most
glass broken. No leaks under vehicle, although lots of mud (the owners must
have been doing their best Brad900 impersonation). Says $3500 on window. No winch
10K miles, 1700 hrs, heater, west coast mirrors, Michelin
12.50 radials (all 10), c or d turbo, looked like a new radiator (or recored),
airshift, spring ride seat. No canvas, troop seats or racks. vinyl roof. Most
glass broken. No leaks under vehicle, although lots of mud (the owners must
have been doing their best Brad900 impersonation). Says $3500 on window. No winch
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Oh, and also has Extreme Off Road stickers on it, must have come from those guys before they closed up shop.
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yes it is the truck south of cleveland. There was not anyone around so I didn't crawl around on it too much...rdixiemiller said:
-It was a turbo MF
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Foul
FOUL ! I call foul, no snow, frost , cold, crap in the pictures...FOUL ! Not fair ! No -40 windchill , FOUL !
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FOUL ! I call foul, no snow, frost , cold, crap in the pictures...FOUL ! Not fair ! No -40 windchill , FOUL !
lol!
I like the idea of running 12.50R20 Michelin XL tires on the deuce as duals. I imagine it would greatly improve traction on and offroad. I am mainly interested in offroading, so I had been considering larger super singles. Is the traction with the 12.50R20 dual tires good enough that it rivals or eliminates the need for bigger (49 inch) super singles?
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Bossler,
For sure traction and floatation will be much better with those radials, either duals or single, but keep in mind that the 12.5x20s have a little less rolling radius than the stock 9.00x20, so you actually loose some ground clearance.
Also forget 49” rubber for a deuce! (Unless you are planning some severe modifications!) The distance between rear axles is only 48”!
Gerhard
For sure traction and floatation will be much better with those radials, either duals or single, but keep in mind that the 12.5x20s have a little less rolling radius than the stock 9.00x20, so you actually loose some ground clearance.
Also forget 49” rubber for a deuce! (Unless you are planning some severe modifications!) The distance between rear axles is only 48”!
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Tire traction is directly proportional to the load you are carrying. To add traction, add cargo.
Off-road, the NDCC's are probably as good as any tire from what I have read. The bias ply may even be an advantage in some cases.
Off-road, the NDCC's are probably as good as any tire from what I have read. The bias ply may even be an advantage in some cases.
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gringeltaube said:
are you sure about this? a 12.5 should have about 3.5 inches more ground clearance.
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I think he may have confused this with passenger car tire sizes with the ratios instead of the exact measurements.
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The 12.5R20 and 9.00x20 are effectively the same height (I think the 9.00 is listed to be slightly larger). A 12.5 definitely does not increase ground clearance 3.5". You'll need 15.5s or 395/85R20 to do that.
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Also, the 14.5R20 is the same height as 11.00X20
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I don't know how they claim the 12.5's to be on a 10 or 11" wheel...they look as if designed for a stock width wheel.
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I see my mistake. Thanks for clearing that up for me!
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rizzo and ida34: I was totally sure when I wrote that!
It's like M1075 said: no way to gain 3 or more inches with that tire size!
Check following info:
http://www.conti-online.com/generat...d/mpt80/dimensions/dimension_12_5_r20_en.html
For all 12.5R20s they put 1030 mm (40.6") outside diameter and 480 mm (18.9") static radius in their catalogs, real measurements are usually a little under that, with radius rapidly decreasing when lowering tire pressure for sand, mud, etc..
With dual 9.00x20s (new) at 40 psi the distance from center of axle to level ground is approx. 19.5" (after sitting for a while, truck unloaded)
Bjorn: Believe me, once you try modern radials (i.e. MPT multi purpose tires) in sand or mud (never have snow here!) you will change your mind about NDCCs. The only disadvantage is their price if you want them new.
But you could look for good used Michelin 12.00R20 XML for example, they fit well on your M34 wheels. Tomorrow I will be visiting a friend of mine who has exactly that combination on his deuce, and shoot some pics. He used to love his original bias ply... until he accepted to try those radials!
Gerhard
It's like M1075 said: no way to gain 3 or more inches with that tire size!
Check following info:
http://www.conti-online.com/generat...d/mpt80/dimensions/dimension_12_5_r20_en.html
For all 12.5R20s they put 1030 mm (40.6") outside diameter and 480 mm (18.9") static radius in their catalogs, real measurements are usually a little under that, with radius rapidly decreasing when lowering tire pressure for sand, mud, etc..
With dual 9.00x20s (new) at 40 psi the distance from center of axle to level ground is approx. 19.5" (after sitting for a while, truck unloaded)
Bjorn: Believe me, once you try modern radials (i.e. MPT multi purpose tires) in sand or mud (never have snow here!) you will change your mind about NDCCs. The only disadvantage is their price if you want them new.
But you could look for good used Michelin 12.00R20 XML for example, they fit well on your M34 wheels. Tomorrow I will be visiting a friend of mine who has exactly that combination on his deuce, and shoot some pics. He used to love his original bias ply... until he accepted to try those radials!
Gerhard