Please don't take my response as "fighting", what I'm putting out is VERY important info IMHO. We had a Humvee that we turned back into DRMO (or whoever we got it from) in '09, and some other dept got without updating anything. They didn't have it for even a year and a young newboy got killed using it. I appreciate having to use what you can get, but I want to make sure people know what they have and what it can and cannot do. BTW, make mine Sam Adams.I wasn't trying to start a fight here. Like its been said before, you don't know me, and I don't know you. I just know what I've seen, and I do know that MV's are more dangerous than purpose built trucks. That's why our depts go through extra training with the military for them to drive them right. Now lets stop with the fighting and get back to the MV talk.