Legal Issues that could effect all MV Owners

swiss

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Heck, thought I would take a peek at the live video, but both GA houses give "offline"
Robo this week is for meetings like the one I attended today were everyone is trying to get their ducks in a row. They did not meet today in the general assembly areas. The GA State Capital is much like the Federal government and in the Capital building we have both the GA Senate and House of Representatives.

I will post updates on the meeting later after I get done some of the work that did not get done at the business done!

Thank you for your second donation to the cause!
 

73m819

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What I DO NOT understand is that hear we have MR. ROBO McDUFF, who is as far from GEORGIA as you can get DONATING and FIGHTING for the cause (changing the law so ALL 1986 and newer MILITARY VECHILES can be REGISTERED and DRIVEN on GEORGIA roads) while MEMBERS that LIVE in GEORGIA and OWN these trucks are sitting on there hands with there thumbs sticking up, all the while NOT doing a da-mm thing, not everybody but a VERY large number fall into this category, you know who you are, you should be ashamed.

MR.ROBO McDUFF does not even have a dog in this fight yet is showing more tenacity then the members that can lose there dogs.

THANK YOU MR.ROBO McDUFF, and yes, I used Mr. on purposed as a SIGN OF RESPECT.

This message was approved by a KINDER/GENTLER RON, the NON-kinder/gentler Ron's message was not allowed.
 
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3dAngus

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Ron,

Negativity is counter productive. My guess is, some people have been put off by this whole thing some time ago by making comparison's, putting down locals, and making demeaning statements because some people elect not to immediately get involved before more concrete info is available.

We just need to let all people decide for themselves, and their decisions need be respected without comment.
I'm not saying you are the cause for low turnout, just saying I do believe it would be better without all the criticisms made by a few, and it would go better with a positive campaign. Swiss will work it. Let's be nice out there, when asking for money to support a good cause.
 

73m819

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Ron,

Negativity is counter productive. My guess is, some people have been put off by this whole thing some time ago by making comparison's, putting down locals, and making demeaning statements because some people elect not to immediately get involved before more concrete info is available.

We just need to let all people decide for themselves, and their decisions need be respected without comment.
I'm not saying you are the cause for low turnout, just saying I do believe it would be better without all the criticisms made by a few, and it would go better with a positive campaign. Swiss will work it. Let's be nice out there, when asking for money to support a good cause.
1--Not demeaning to anyone, NEVER mentioned names.
2--It seems just by looking at things, only a FEW REALLY CARE.
3--This cause is about a LOT more then money.
4--My STATEMENT above was from a KINDER/GENTLER Ron who is UNDER ORDERS NOT to post a STATEMENT from a NON-K/G R,
 

3dAngus

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I think we ALL understand. This is an emotially charged issue for some for many reasons.
I am a very emotional guy myself.
This is a vote for change, at the highest level of our state government.
We need to be professional, polite, and positive. We are being looked at.
Let's let the people use the American method, and decide for themselves.
 

glcaines

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Have we reached out to the Georgia MVPA? They have members that are not on SS, but I know some likely have new MVs that may fall into this trap. Perhaps they can send out an e-mail to their members for support.
 

swiss

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3DAngus thank you for the kind words. I am trying to give back to those that have supported me in our hobby.

I had a good meeting today at the capital. Met with our senator and spent some time today going through the issues in detail to ensure that he understood all the details. He had good questions and brought up some concerns or potential road blocks that I need to think about how to deal with. I also met with another Senator who will help support the Bill and explained to him the details.

The good news is tomorrow he is going to pass along the draft to the Legislative Counsel, this is the legal team that supports the legislators with the "Official Language" for a Bill. This process will probably go through a few iterations. Once we have the language finalized then the Senator will bring this before the Transportation Committee to get the necessary support to introduce this as a Bill. I have been asked to come back at the time it is ready to be presented to the Transportation Committee to testify/discuss the merits of the Bill.

Now after that just because it is a Bill does not mean it gets to the floor for a vote by all the members. You have to go through the Rules Committee. Now it that was not hard enough remember that legislation has to be passed by both the House and the Senate. So there are various ways that this happens but guess what we have a great team member on board representing us which is why it is important to have a Lobbyist working for us.

Now for some housekeeping. Yes I am also a bit tired of chasing money but it has to be done and walking around the Capital today and the meetings that I had with the right players I could see the results of our investment.

We have $2028.90 in contributions and pledges. We are at 68% of our goal of $3,000. Thank you again to the 32 Steel Soldier Members who have stepped up and donated. I am going to cut a check to Cindy our lobbyist for the funds that I have cash in hand in the next few days.

I started this process telling Cindy that I would find a way to pay her if she helped me one way or another. She took my word on faith and it felt good today to be able to tell Cindy that I was going to give her some payment on the hard work that she had done so far. Those of you that know me, also know I can push when I want something, so now I don’t feel so bad pushing this agenda with her given the fact that we are a real customer now.
 
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papabear

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Swiss you're doing an outstanding job troop![thumbzup]

Win, lose or draw on this first go around I see a promotion in your future. You will be known as "Imperial Count Swiss" and will be afforded all that goes with the title!:beer:
 

swiss

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Swiss you're doing an outstanding job troop![thumbzup]

Win, lose or draw on this first go around I see a promotion in your future. You will be known as "Imperial Count Swiss" and will be afforded all that goes with the title!:beer:
No promotions necessary I am good. I want to share a story with everyone. When I first got on the site as a newbie and a real newbie I watched and listened to the SS community and decided that this was an interesting group of people that I had not seen in other aspects of life and I would stick around a bit to see where this went.

At one point I did the “Whoops I bought it” early on a few times totally clueless as to what I was getting myself into. So let me tell you the rest of the story.

1.) I decide I want a wrecker,(Stupid Stupid) go and purchase a M62 site unseen and if not 73M189 taking me under his wing I would have been out of this hobby ASAP a long time ago.
2.) I purchase an M105 from redstone, PM this guy called Wreckerman and he proceeds to reach out and call me, give me all the lowdown on how to get in and out of Redstone and later meets me on the way home to introduce himself.
3.) I purchase 25 - 5 Ton snatch blocks, and don’t have time to do a pickup. I call a complete stranger from the site, PapaBear, explain my situation and he proceeds not only to pick up my stuff, but stores it for over 6 months till I can get down and pick it up
4.) I purchase a tent cover from another member who is stranded in Macon GA and staying at another members house. So 3DAngus says don’t worry about picking up the tent he can store it until I am making a trip by and can pick it up.

The stories go on and on…

God gives everyone talents and blessings. The key in life is to recognize where you can use your talents and if you give a little of yourself you will reap greater rewards in the end.
 

3dAngus

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Imperial Count Swiss.
I second the motion, but, WOW!
I also nominate Ron to help us out and bring a wheelbarrow to the next Ga. rally.
Swiss will need it to carry his head around in. Talk about a big head. :3dAngus:

Go Swiss! You rock!
 

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Jesusgatos thank you for the offer of assistance. Why not put the towbar for sale in the classifieds and explain that this is for the cause and open it up for bidding/offers. The rules say you have to set a price so why not put a fair price on it kind of like buy it now and then if somebody wants to buy after a few days of offers then sell to the highest offer. It is a win for everyone. The buyer gets an item of value while helping the cause. Your good offer of assistance will come back with greater rewards as things in life happen and we get additional funding to help make change!
Done (link to the auction here)
 

73m819

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imperial count swiss.
I second the motion, but, wow!
I also nominate ron to help us out and bring a wheelbarrow to the next ga. Rally.
Swiss will need it to carry his head around in. Talk about a big head. :3dangus:

Go swiss! You rock!
will do
 

swiss

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Got some help from Paul in Wisconsin on how to address some issues that came up from our meeting yesterday at the Capital. Big Thanks Paul!!!!!

We got 4 more donations in today for $170.00!

Thanks Everyone, I will update the totals later.

Great Bidding and Idea on the Tow Bar Auction by Jesusgatos. Thanks for taking an idea and running with it :)
 
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Robo McDuff

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Got some help from Paul in Wisconsin on how to ..... attack .... some issues that came up from our meeting yesterday at the Capital.... :)
If I may suggest, when desciribing your efforts, use words like counter or tackle; attack, although probably the proper word here, sounds aggrssive. Maybe too carefull here, but a lot of people, maybe including the opposition, is reading this (and therefore this comment also, oops)
 

undysworld

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Maybe too carefull here, but a lot of people, maybe including the opposition, is reading this (and therefore this comment also, oops)
Bet on it. You can be dam* sure that the DOT involved is reading your comments, especially if it's a fight. Act accordingly. If you want it kept private, don't post on a forum. If you don't want a record, make it verbal.

Best not to be too insulting or confrontational, nor to give up your strategy, online.
 

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I posted end of last year after doing all the research and trying to handle my paperwork specifically to accumulate documented replies back from the State that I was told directly they knew - your not mentioning anything they did not know.

If its not one of the previous posts I edited - you might be able to locate it - anything distruptive or hurting anyones feelings and I could edit it, I did.

I perfer not to hold onto the 40 files I have with thousands of pages of research done - if you want these pm me with an e mail address and I will forward them on otherwise I will delete the files. These do not include the ones I read and did not save - otherwise there would have been more. These files contain everything needed to almost get the Draft written.
 

papabear

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I posted end of last year after doing all the research and trying to handle my paperwork specifically to accumulate documented replies back from the State that I was told directly they knew - your not mentioning anything they did not know.
If its not one of the previous posts I edited - you might be able to locate it - anything distruptive or hurting anyones feelings and I could edit it, I did.
I perfer not to hold onto the 40 files I have with thousands of pages of research done - if you want these pm me with an e mail address and I will forward them on otherwise I will delete the files. These do not include the ones I read and did not save - otherwise there would have been more. These files contain everything needed to almost get the Draft written.
Hey Bro, often times a piece of legislation does not make it thru the first time for many different reasons. Also, this will be a REALLY short session as the legislators need to get back to their AOs and do some campaigning.

I would hope you hold on to whatever research you have until we get a better handle on this thingy.
 
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