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Man, wouldn't I want to do that (although the CO would have a higher priority). Don't want to look dumb, but which rally would that be?Robo, Fly in for the Rally in Oct. 17oz. is what they start with while waiting for breakfast.
Interesting topic of discussion here. This problem stems from a number of things but mostly resides with poorly trained DMV employees and lack of clear policy and direction from higher (NHTSA). This problem actually effects a lot of cars, not just really old ones. In my line of business we import Japanese cars into the market, all of which have 11-12 character VIN numbers and none of them carry a U.S. title. I've been to many different DMV locations and every employee and office is different. No one is on the same page or communicates. The majority of DMV employees take one look at the "short VIN" and say it's illegal, or the other half says they need to issue a replacement VIN. Bottom line policy from NHTSA is original number is retained as the VIN and as long as it conforms to FMVSS or is a box 1 exempt vehicle due to age (25 years or older) then it's legal.I'm having the same issue...as is a good friend of mine.
BMY or Harsco was not listed in the local DMV data base so they sent a request to Atlanta to have it added since we have the SF97's from the government.
Also, both trucks (one M923 and one M934) do not have 17 digit VINs and DMV just cannot get it thru their heads that it's NOT a VIN but a SERIAL NUMBER!!
I have a tag/title feller working on it because I just knew I would get locked up when I inevitively blue a gasket and went off like a Chinese firework!!
So...hasn't anyone EVER LEAGALLY titled a BMY Harsco truck in GA?? I KNOW they are out there....er...here.??
I heard...or read...honestly don't remember which, that someone in GA registered an M923 as a Chevrolet?? Well, that would not set right with me, PLUS...where did the extra numbers come from to make a 17 digit VIN??
I see you're new here. You're correct about box 1 on an HS-7 form, but you're mistaken if you think that NHTSA will straighten out a registration issue with a state.Interesting topic of discussion here.
Bottom line policy from NHTSA is original number is retained as the VIN and as long as it conforms to FMVSS or is a box 1 exempt vehicle due to age (25 years or older) then it's legal.
When in doubt, call NHTSA.
I see you're new here. You're correct about box 1 on an HS-7 form, but you're mistaken if you think that NHTSA will straighten out a registration issue with a state.
According to a letter I got from Coleman Sachs, NHTSA chief of import and certification (or some such title), "registration is the responsibility of the state". That means that if state law prohibits registration due to a lack of Cert. Label, then there is nothing NHTSA can or will do about it.
DMV employees, like anyone, make mistakes. But ultimately each state's DOT will administer their own state's laws, and try to do it accurately. Sometimes you must actually get the law changed.
That's funny Robo.
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