Power plant heater

[cranetruck]

Is the M35 power plant heater hard to find? That's "B" in the image below.
Does anybody have experience with it?
Thanks,
Bjorn
MVPA19212

 

[mangus580]

Bjorn, I'm not sure, but isnt that essentially the same 'power plant' heater as the CUCV uses? A fuel powered coolant heater...

 

[Armada]

I have not seen one specifically for a duece either, but I would think the cucv coolant heater is the same, albeit some differences in mounting.
I've got the cucv kit but have not installed it yet. The multifel heater in the back of the m109 is essentially the same thing without the pump and chamber for circulating and heating coolant, and that baby really puts out! I'm betting the coolant heaters will work like a champ too.
On a side note Bjorn, I was finally able to use the ether injector a couple days ago when the temps dipped below 30. Just one quick flip of the switch while cranking and the engine comes to life. A very handy accessory that should help to save on starter and battery life.

 

[mangus580]

ether injector??? how spoiled can ya be? I would be happy if my flame heater worked!!!

btw... even without the flame heater... in sub-zero temps, my deuce WILL start!!

 

[Armada]

Ouch. Well, here in Michigan, the winters get much colder than that tropical cold yooz guyz in NY get!
Seriously, I've never started mine in sub zero temps yet, but it will start in single digits. It just takes a lot more cranking.
The cucv's are the ones that have a hard time starting if everything in the starting system is not absolutely 100%. But if the system is in top order with strong batteries, they'll start well too.

 

[mangus580]

I have (just need to pickup) a complete CUCV winterization kit should start then!! as they are made to start them at -50

 

[Armada]

-50, I believe it! I see the complete kit has the enclosed battery boxes and oil pans that allow the hot air to cycle through. That is so cool. Throw on the body blankets and you could stay warm on the dark side of the moon even!

 

[mangus580]

LOL @210 Buy it now on ebay.... located on the west side of Toronto....

I cant wait to get mine.... although I am not sure I will use the complete kit! there is alot of stuff there....

 

[Polverone]

This is a little bit OT but I purchased 2 - 4X4 vans and 2 - 4X4 trucks from the Navy base at McMurdo (Antartica).
They all had heating pads on bottom of:
Transmission pan
Oil Pan
Batteries

Something like these here: http://www.shop.com/op/aprod-p24035083?sourceid=3

If you want one Bjorn (I saved one of them before I sold the vehicles) I will give it to you.

 

[mangus580]

Thats one of the unique things about the CUCV kit... it has a new oil pan, and a new trany pan, the exhaust from the coolant heater is designed to exit through them!!

 

[Armada]

The guy in Toronto is pwitter I think. I bought my coolant heater from him. Looks brand new, no corrosion, etc. He is a reliable seller.

 

[Polverone]

These might be "underpowered" for the Duece as it is for a generator but he has three. I posted it to the non-member ebay items as well.

Maybe they can be fabricated to work for the Duece?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Military-Genera...ryZ42907QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[mangus580]

so you just got the heater? not the whole kit?

 

[Armada]

Everything but the oil pans, battery boxes and ductwork. He had a 'reduced' kit he was selling. I didn't need that other stuff for the duece.
The mounting brackets that come with it are for a cucv inner fender. I have an extra mounting bracket for the duece cab heater that will fit on the exhaust side of the duece engine, over the air horns. There is room to mount it in that spot.
The controller is the only thing I have mounted so far. You can see it in this picture.
I will only be using one set of heater switches as the cucv kit comes with 2 heaters.

 

[mangus580]

Looks good!!

I see the single control boxes on ebay from time to time as well....

Now I wonder if it would be easier to do this for my deuce as opposed to getting the damn heater fittings out!

which heater did you get? the coolant? or air?

 

[Armada]

The coolant. I wanted to be able to start the truck in real cooooold weather. The ether seems to be working quite well so far though.

 

[FSBruva]

Armada-

I have heard that engines become ... "addicted" (for lack of a better word) to ether, once you start using it. Is this true?

Matt

 

[Desert Rat]

Just like a crack addict.

 

[mangus580]

Alot of engines that are addicted.... need to use ether because of a different reason (like glow plug failure or something) Usually, when this is the case its most likely a function of further failure of such a system...

Does that make sense?

 

[FSBruva]

So does this mean that once you begin using ether to start the truck, you will more than likely have to use it, even at temperatures that you might have been able to start at before? Or what is the net impact? Should the ether starter be shied away from? I haven't used it yet, and I don't want to be opening up pandora's ether can.

Matt