Question about boneyards overseas?

[Ryanhooker]

I was watching youtube, and a video showing a humvee and tank graveyard. So what is going to be done with all the scrap humvees overseas? Is there any chance we could see these back over here? Who would you contact to find any info out?

 

[emmado22]

No HMMWV will ever be sold thru DRMO/GL. The DEMIL for it is total destruction. There were a few that got out a while back, thats all that will get out legally.

 

[Ryanhooker]

No HMMWV will ever be sold thru DRMO/GL. The DEMIL for it is total destruction. There were a few that got out a while back, thats all that will get out legally.

Dude, did you even read. SCRAP! BONEYARD! GRAVEYARD! An just for your info, about 2 months ago a brand new body was sold on GL.

 

[gunboy1656]

Even the bodies are scrapped. Not just whole trucks.

 

[48cj2a]

Knowing the military - nothing in the scap lots on the bases overseas will make it back here. It would be too costly to ship.

But I would venture to say some will get out as scap overseas.

Ours was a great places to scavenge parts to repair vehicles in Kuwait in 03.

If you ever remember seeing the milemarker winch add of the guys installing winches in the field...I was there and saw those guys doing it on Camp Doha.

 

[emmado22]

HMMWV parts are sold thru GL. But you wont see a complete HMMWV thru GL like you do with CUCV's/M800/M35 series...

I know what Boneyards are... Officially called Canibalization Points.

 

[KsM715]

What kind of scrap yard are we talking about? Privately owned scrap yard, just like the ones we have here in the states, or yards the the U.S. Govt. owns? You can get stuff from privately owned yards. Cost $$$ to get it back to the states and if its whole vehicles sometimes you cannot bring it back or get it registered. (depending on what it is) If your talking about U.S. owned stuff, forget it you'll never see it brought back or surplused out.

 

[Ryanhooker]

HMMWV parts are sold thru GL. But you wont see a complete HMMWV thru GL like you do with CUCV's/M800/M35 series...

I know what Boneyards are... Officially called Canibalization Points.

No one has said one word about a whole truck. Nor have I said any thing about titleing of one. Lets just say that a damaged body is on a frame, there picked over pretty well to have no useable parts other the repairable frame and body. An they do come out like this. 2 where sold by austin last month. Not a complete truck, Residue of a truck.

 

[Jones]

Ryan,
The demil requirements for HMMWV bodies is that they be cut diagonally from corner to corner then, that the suspension mounting points be cut out too. I think they even insist that they be torch cut, not sawn, so that there's even less of them being put back together.
Doing it by the book says that an inspector will check the demil before they even leave the yard.
That's not to say that one may escape occassionally but the chances are pretty slim.

The M-151's roll-over problem and resulting liability started the ball rolling with total destruction.

 

[LOGANSTANFORTH]

Alot of those trucks are also supplying rebuild parts to the re-set shops in Qatar and Kuwait...They will take parts off them, rebuild them, and reinstall them on other trucks...Lets say a control arm for instance, it will get new bushings, ball joint, fresh coat of paint and its good to go back on another truck...Same with frames, engines, transmissions, and about everything else, except expendable parts...ITT is one of the biggest companies doing this and they pay good money...



Or work for customs in Germany like my friend did (german born american dual citizen courtesy of father in US army) and slowly amass parts through wheeling and dealing with the US Military...He almost has enough to build a complete HWWMV...

 

[Ryanhooker]

Ryan,
The demil requirements for HMMWV bodies is that they be cut diagonally from corner to corner then, that the suspension mounting points be cut out too. I think they even insist that they be torch cut, not sawn, so that there's even less of them being put back together.
Doing it by the book says that an inspector will check the demil before they even leave the yard.
That's not to say that one may escape occassionally but the chances are pretty slim.

The M-151's roll-over problem and resulting liability started the ball rolling with total destruction.

Not saing they dont. Not saing they do. All that I seen, all they wanted done was to see that it could not easy to be put back on the road. They wanted stuff moved out asap for more room.

Take a look at photos While bodies are poor frames are in good shape un-cut and on one there was a complete set of arms on rear along with the tie rods and wiring harness for it.

I wish that these would make it back to the states. If they are cutting them up, why odnt they bring them home? I mean they bring some battle damaged trucks back, why dont they pack it in them?

 

[Jones]

What a person is willing to devote to a ground up restoration is a far cry from what the military is willing to do.
They bring back a lot of the larger vehicles because Oshkosh and AM General both have "RESET" programs in place. I don't think there's any such plan for vehicles that may be considered disposable.
Too badly damaged = cut it up and requisition another.

 

[lonegunman]

They had about 40 acres of ruined trucks on the back side of Camp Liberty when I was there in 2007. I'm not sure if you would want them. From the looks of most of them, someone died turning them into scrap.

Hopefully, they will finish destroying them before the Iraqi's use them for displays of there "Victory Over America" of some such crap.

 

[KsM715]

Hopefully, they will finish destroying them before the Iraqi's use them for displays of there "Victory Over America" of some such crap.

I'd rather seen them turned in to little itty bitty pieces metal than just abandon them there when we leave.

 

[Brian Thomas]

why didnt you buy the frame on ebay that you posted the pictures of?.

There is a reason you dont see these things on the road in civy hands.

 

[kcimb]

I'd rather seen them turned in to little itty bitty pieces metal than just abandon them there when we leave.

I'm not interested in seeing a vehicle fellow sevicemen died in used as a monument to the"infidel Americans"

 

[86humv]

Ryanhooker...Those photo's of the humvee body's are or were in Texas at Austin's surplus yard. He sold them .
Greg

 

[aximony]

I'm not interested in seeing a vehicle fellow sevicemen died in used as a monument to the"infidel Americans"

I hate getting into political debates as they usually lead nowhere, but isn't it ironic how misguided resentment works?

If some foreign army invaded Florida, killed your family in the process while claiming they're in there to liberate you, would be thrilled?

Just today Obama killed a family of 12 innocent people in Afghanistan. And Bush did his share of killing in Iraq. Clinton starved a million Iraqi babies by imposing sanctions on Iraq in the 90s, Reagan used the CIA to slaughter thousands of innocents in Central and South America, and Nixon and Johnson commanded the slaughter of thousands in Vietnam. And you wonder why America has such a bad reputation overseas? Because our number 1 export is weapons and death.


It's amazing how people forget their own history so quickly, what with the war of independence against the oppressive British and all.


Now you're going to respond with something totally irrelevant to this information, probably along the lines of 9/11 and WMDs thus justifying and absolving our country's leadership of all its sins.

Look in the mirror once in a while. Humility and introspection don't hurt.

 

[Ryanhooker]

I was talking to austin. When i was seeting up the deal, he said that a local person paied him cash. An the civiy frame is the same in most reguards. An not every truck had someone die in it.

 

[KsM715]

Aximony.......................... Never mind I dont feel like getting banned today.