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    Thanks for the heads up klunk. I have been following your thread since your started it. My transmission oil cooler was not near as bad as yours. Only 1.5-2 inches of sludge. Heeding your warning, I did start checking things though as a precaution and water seems to be flowing as it should so far. The flush I did seems to have worked very well. That new paint on your truck looks great!!!

    I did find some hood and bumper markings on my truck. They are 4G 3868. I have not been able to find out much about this, but it appears that those markings were used in the 1960's. Would anyone happen to know how that would translate into the old style markings such as 411x3868?
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    02-1952 M135 W/O #5314 - Reg. #4G3868 (winch added at some point in its life)
    01-1952 M135 W/O #4984 - Reg. #41143???
    12-1951 M135 W/O #3194 - Reg. #41122836 945th Maint Co, 945th Antiaircraft Artillery Bn., Milford Delaware
    11-1951 M135 W/O #556 - Reg. #41121215 5th Army, 816th Quartermaster, Ft. Leonard Wood

    Video of #4984 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FUElX_64i4
    Video of #5314 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYMiR2DT7Fo

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    What transmission is in the truck? I just bought out a large collection of old military manuals and I have a couple for a transmission that I do not have a clue what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankUSMC View Post
    What transmission is in the truck? I just bought out a large collection of old military manuals and I have a couple for a transmission that I do not have a clue what it is.
    One of the few, Frank USMC RET
    TM9-8025-2, 301MG and 303M Hydramatic Transmission

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    There is also TM 9-1819AB for the GMC 302M Hydramatic Transmission. This is the early model that is printed in 1952 for the first GMC Zhydramatics has a lot of good info in the troubleshooting section. Good luck on all your projects!

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    Default Data Plates

    I found this thread the other day about restoring faded data plates and decided to try to restore my truck's overhaul tag. Post #12 by MWMULES was very helpful. I used 1500 grit sandpaper instead of emery boards.

    http://www.steelsoldiers.com/showthr...a-plates/page2

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    02-1952 M135 W/O #5314 - Reg. #4G3868 (winch added at some point in its life)
    01-1952 M135 W/O #4984 - Reg. #41143???
    12-1951 M135 W/O #3194 - Reg. #41122836 945th Maint Co, 945th Antiaircraft Artillery Bn., Milford Delaware
    11-1951 M135 W/O #556 - Reg. #41121215 5th Army, 816th Quartermaster, Ft. Leonard Wood

    Video of #4984 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FUElX_64i4
    Video of #5314 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYMiR2DT7Fo

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    Does anyone know what is a good price for a hard top and military heater for an M135? I found these and would like to buy them soon.

    Here is a pic of the hard top. I was not able to get a pic of the heater that is on a different truck.
    Hard top.jpg

    I got a little more work done on my truck today. The points and condenser were replaced and the timing was adjusted. The points were really bad and the timing was way off. I am surprised that the truck was running as good as it was. A huge difference for the better was noticed after all this was done.

    I was going to adjust the carburetor, check the RPMs at idle, etc., but ran out of time and could not figure out how to hook up the tachometer to the distributor like is mentioned in the TM. Does anyone know how to do this or where to get an adaptor?

    Here are some new part numbers for our list. Borg-Warner Points at O'Reilly's are A72. Borg-Warner condenser is G120A.
    02-1952 M135 W/O #5314 - Reg. #4G3868 (winch added at some point in its life)
    01-1952 M135 W/O #4984 - Reg. #41143???
    12-1951 M135 W/O #3194 - Reg. #41122836 945th Maint Co, 945th Antiaircraft Artillery Bn., Milford Delaware
    11-1951 M135 W/O #556 - Reg. #41121215 5th Army, 816th Quartermaster, Ft. Leonard Wood

    Video of #4984 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FUElX_64i4
    Video of #5314 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYMiR2DT7Fo

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    I am planning on starting to redo my brake system beginning this weekend or next and am trying to gather civilian part numbers for everything first. I think I have all the part numbers except for the outer hub oil seal. Does anyone have a part number for that or know if it is the same as the inner hub oil seal? I can't tell by looking at the picture in the TM.
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    02-1952 M135 W/O #5314 - Reg. #4G3868 (winch added at some point in its life)
    01-1952 M135 W/O #4984 - Reg. #41143???
    12-1951 M135 W/O #3194 - Reg. #41122836 945th Maint Co, 945th Antiaircraft Artillery Bn., Milford Delaware
    11-1951 M135 W/O #556 - Reg. #41121215 5th Army, 816th Quartermaster, Ft. Leonard Wood

    Video of #4984 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FUElX_64i4
    Video of #5314 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYMiR2DT7Fo

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    Post #140 on the G749 Preservation thread has a few photos with the seals I pulled and what I found for replacements.

    Here's a blurb....

    Inner axle seal

    The "National" 'original' inner axle seal Part #2277317 (Mil-B-121E)

    Levy # 7411307

    Modern equivalent seal is CR (Chicago Rawhide ) 18025 716....I hope.

    Inner Hub Seal

    Original Levy #7411429

    Found in hub CR 32519

    Modern equivalent Timken 418028

    Size....3.250 X 4.5 X 0.375

    Did you ever time the beast? SuperDave brought over a fancy timing light that clipped onto the #1 wire and timed it that way. Then I play with the timing when the truck says I should.
    The TM direction on the use of the adapter is dated but it would be cool to have a G749 tool package, including the adapter, trani tools and a pioneer kit. Keep on shopping.

    Hope the part numbers work, check the ones you have in just to be sure.


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    Default G749 Hub, wheel

    Just so I don't mix up the 'inner' 'outer' definition here's a picture of the Wheel, Hub.

    We have 2 different seals it appears and I'm thinking I also have 'D', #7411340 somewhere
    so need to dig more.

    hub wheel 001.jpg

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    Thanks for the info. I knew I had seen that somewhere but could not find it anywhere with the search function. I still need a part number for 'D'.

    I did get the timing set. My dad had a timing light that hooked up to the #1 plug wire. We went to adjust the carburetor and set the RPM's but the carb needs rebuilt since the accelerator pump is not working. I did find a rebuild kit for it and hope to get that done soon as well.

    There was an adapter set for our trucks on an auction site last week. I was the only person to bid on it but the reserve price kept me from getting it since no one else put in a bid. Sure would have liked to have had it.
    02-1952 M135 W/O #5314 - Reg. #4G3868 (winch added at some point in its life)
    01-1952 M135 W/O #4984 - Reg. #41143???
    12-1951 M135 W/O #3194 - Reg. #41122836 945th Maint Co, 945th Antiaircraft Artillery Bn., Milford Delaware
    11-1951 M135 W/O #556 - Reg. #41121215 5th Army, 816th Quartermaster, Ft. Leonard Wood

    Video of #4984 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FUElX_64i4
    Video of #5314 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYMiR2DT7Fo

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